Why Not Develop on The PS3?

[adembroski]

My understanding... the architecture of the PS3 (whatever that means) is more difficult to work with due to the fact that, while both systems have equal memory, some of the PS3s is dedicated to certain tasks and developers don't have the freedom to go in whatever direction they want with the PS3.

What I know from a practical stand point is that the XBox 360 is much easier to test for due to more tools and a more complete dev kit. Considering the amount of work done on the dev kits, this is a huge advantage.

[hayvis]

Quote: Originally Posted by adembroski

My understanding... the architecture of the PS3 (whatever that means) is more difficult to work with due to the fact that, while both systems have equal memory, some of the PS3s is dedicated to certain tasks and developers don't have the freedom to go in whatever direction they want with the PS3. What I know from a practical stand point is that the XBox 360 is much easier to test for due to more tools and a more complete dev kit. Considering the amount of work done on the dev kits, this is a huge advantage.

+1. And you have to consider that early in NG development, the PS3 wasn't even out added to the fact that Xbox 360 has always apparently been easy to develop for. I disagree that potential and direction are problems on the PS3 however. I think it's the system that you can do more with; it's just really complicated.

[doom41]

I'm not going to debate PS3 v 360. I do think that PS3 with the Bluray has the potential to make far better games. From what I've heard from the devs it won't make a difference in game play which is code based, but more disk space would allow for more video/cut scenes and audio. This would allow for much better presentation that most are asking for.
Now, do I think that they should be developing on PS3 to port to 360? No. It doesn't make any sence at this point in time. It's already been pointed out that there are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, not to mention that supposedly it is easier to dev on the 360. Why try to cater to PS3 only users when they make up a smaller % of your target market, and it would be more difficult(ie... COST MORE) to develope on the PS3?
As I said earlier though, I do believe that PS3 has the potential for superior games, but it is up to SONY to prove that, with their exclusive games. I think they've done a fairly good job so far, but they still have work to do.
No offence to EA Devs, but I would really like to see what SONY could do with a football game made exclusively for PS3. Then we could at least have a realistic debate about which way is better, and not based on theory and comparison of games that though simillar are still too different to truly compare. We can compare The Show with other baseball games (I think most agree PS3 wins that one), but until SONY makes a PS3 exlusive football game this is all theory and guessing.

[Rekkapryde]

Quote: Originally Posted by doom41

I'm not going to debate PS3 v 360. I do think that PS3 with the Bluray has the potential to make far better games. From what I've heard from the devs it won't make a difference in game play which is code based, but more disk space would allow for more video/cut scenes and audio. This would allow for much better presentation that most are asking for. Now, do I think that they should be developing on PS3 to port to 360? No. It doesn't make any sence at this point in time. It's already been pointed out that there are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, not to mention that supposedly it is easier to dev on the 360. Why try to cater to PS3 only users when they make up a smaller % of your target market, and it would be more difficult(ie... COST MORE) to develope on the PS3? As I said earlier though, I do believe that PS3 has the potential for superior games, but it is up to SONY to prove that, with their exclusive games. I think they've done a fairly good job so far, but they still have work to do. No offence to EA Devs, but I would really like to see what SONY could do with a football game made exclusively for PS3. Then we could at least have a realistic debate about which way is better, and not based on theory and comparison of games that though simillar are still too different to truly compare. We can compare The Show with other baseball games (I think most agree PS3 wins that one), but until SONY makes a PS3 exlusive football game this is all theory and guessing.

Good post. They did say that the game is NOT ported from the 360 to PS3 as well. We seem to be forgetting that.

The thing with the replays is nice to know (thx Ian), so I can def see how that area between the games is a win for the 360. The bluray capacity thing on the discs however does intrigue me, and it would be nice to see how it can be used more on the PS3 end. Being able to process/handle alot more in game is another strength of the PS3 (played a little KZ2 this morning and its amazing how much action is going on between the players and environement and the amazing lighting detail in that game).

[Dmacho]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

eventually the ps3 will show its graphical superiority as devs continue to learn about the cell processor. to people who talk like it's no big deal, pretend you were a writer. you've been writing in english your whole life, but suddenly your publisher came to you and said "your next book is in spanish, and we're going to translate it to english." how would that affect you?

Lol, eventually it will be time for xbox 720 and PS4 to be released. The consoles are upgraded about every 5 years ; xbox 360 was released in late 2005.

[Rekkapryde]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dmacho

Lol, eventually it will be time for xbox 720 and PS4 to be released. The consoles are upgraded about every 5 years ; xbox 360 was released in late 2005.

If there is one thing I've learned from this latest console generation is that I'm not buyin a console at launch until a year later, especially from MS after their debacle on the 360's hardware. Unless there is a clear cut game that is a system seller for me (like Madden 2001 for the PS2 and NCAA 07 for the 360), I'll wait a year.

[hcopenhagenh]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rekkapryde

Good post. They did say that the game is NOT ported from the 360 to PS3 as well. We seem to be forgetting that. The thing with the replays is nice to know (thx Ian), so I can def see how that area between the games is a win for the 360. The bluray capacity thing on the discs however does intrigue me, and it would be nice to see how it can be used more on the PS3 end. Being able to process/handle alot more in game is another strength of the PS3 (played a little KZ2 this morning and its amazing how much action is going on between the players and environement and the amazing lighting detail in that game).

And all of this doesn't make a game. KZ2 is horrible. I have the 2 consoles and Wii. The control layout for KZ2 is horrendous and ruins the game. It doesn't matter if the game is pretty, it matters if it plays well. The control layout makes this game a bust.

[Altimus]

Although there is some solid information here from Adam, I'm going to have to lock this up because at this point it is more 360 VS PS3 specs/exclusives instead of NCAA discussion.

Locked.