Why Not Develop on The PS3?

[yankeesgiants]

In all actuality, arent all console exclusives supposed to look better because well, umm it's only made for one console? Just a thought...

[Klocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rekkapryde

You also have a case with a game like Burnout Paradise developed on the PS3 and ported to the 360 having excellent results on both consoles.

everything you say is correct and I agree... development is harder and will be for some time and hopefully there will be fruit (as there is with 1st party exclusives given enough time and money).

Regarding the above, BO Paradise ...reading the recent Digital foundry interview with Criterion, it has been more or less confirmed that the 360 version actually has unused RAM so they are on par with the PS3 (essentially). they said they "they coded to the least common denominator within each console". so areas where PS3 had an advantage, it was not used if 360 couldn't keep up. so as Adam has stated, each has it's pluses and minuses that need to be factored in.

also, believe it or not, reading developer comments on B3D as well, it is confirmed that several games reduce the memory footprint on the 360 version (gimping it slightly, textures, AA) just so forum threads like these don't backlash on the devs and/or sales by PS3 owners.

SO IN CONCLUSION ... taking EA or the more than friendly devs on this board to task for short-comings in the PS3 version is unwarranted, unfounded, and unfair.

[Rekkapryde]

Quote: Originally Posted by Klocker

SO IN CONCLUSION ... taking EA or the more than friendly devs on this board to task for short-comings in the PS3 version is unwarranted, unfounded, and unfair.

I agree. I'm in leagues on both the 360 and PS3.

Thing is with the ps3 exclusive titles, they are heavily coded for the SPUs (which is where the power of the PS3 lies) and those games heavily coded and optimized for the cell/spus blow the comp out of the water. It's proven. The 360s graphics card is slightly better than the PS3 though.

If you wanna kick a developer for a doing a horrible job on a ps3 multiplatform game, talk to the Ghostbusters guys.

EA is doing a great job IMO.

[Rekkapryde]

Quote: Originally Posted by dkrause1971

If you do use gamerankings- Killzone 2, the show, uncharted are decently below games like gears, gears 2 and halo 3.

I'm not going to even get into the farce that is gaming journalism.

Halo 3 got rated off of hype alone. COD4 runs circles around Halo 3.

Gears is the peak of 360 and that has easily been surpassed by the likes of KZ2, Uncharted, R&C Future. I have both consoles and it's plain as day.

Staying on topic. They've already said they develop on the PS3 and 360 separately and they do a good job of it.

[Adam_Thompson_EA]

Quote: Originally Posted by Klocker

True enough ... I apologize if I fanned any flames, but the incorrect premise keeps getting reiterated and your explanation ignored. sorry

I know. There is a lot of bad information in this thread... your stuff seems to be accurate though.

[Adam_Thompson_EA]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rekkapryde

You know that's how these things go. lol. Just glad I own both so I don't miss out on anything. In general, most believe (and the evidence is apparent) that multiplatform games led on the 360 and ported to the PS3 does no justice to the PS3 version with MOST developers. And PS3 exclusives have been pretty superior to most 360 exclusives.

That's pretty subjective though. The superiority of a game is on the development team behind the software, regardless of what console they are developing for.

[~Guru~]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rekkapryde

I'm not going to even get into the farce that is gaming journalism. Halo 3 got rated off of hype alone. COD4 runs circles around Halo 3. Gears is the peak of 360 and that has easily been surpassed by the likes of KZ2, Uncharted, R&C Future. I have both consoles and it's plain as day. Staying on topic. They've already said they develop on the PS3 and 360 separately and they do a good job of it.

You tell him to stay on topic yet you want to tell him that is your opinion that kz and uncharted run circles around the best that 360 offers..

I have both consoles and i dont see kz as better then gow....so opinion is subject to your belief only....

[Mad 69]

Quote: Originally Posted by dkrause1971

And how do you suggest this two disk would work on the 360? Force people to install 8-9 GB off the first disk and play off disk two like alot of PC games do? well goodbye arcade owners or anyone else who doesn't want to spend 9GB of their 14GB free gb of the 20 gb HD. BTW- plenty of good games fit on one dvd and plenty of crap games are on the blu ray and vice versa. The game doesn't need more disk space to be better, its needs better coding.

I would never buy a game that came on 2 discs, I don't care if its the best game in the world. They should keep developing on the 360 - why in the hell would you develop a North American game on a Japanese console? That has got to be the dumbest idea I have heard in a long time.

[Rekkapryde]

Quote: Originally Posted by ~Guru~

I have both consoles and i dont see kz as better then gow....so opinion is subject to your belief only....

That's fair. (sorry, GOW is reserved for God Of War).

I guess what I meant to say is "technically" KZ2 buries Gears. Overall, I have no beef at all with those who enjoy or like Gears better or even COD better, but on a technical levels nothing comes close on a console FPS to KZ2.

[Rekkapryde]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mad 69

why in the hell would you develop a North American game on a Japanese console? That has got to be the dumbest idea I have heard in a long time.

*stares at Nintendo, Genesis, Saturn, Super Nintendo, N64, PS1, PS2, etc.*