NCAA Football 09 Patch #1 Available

[icicle22]

Does it occur to anyone who is mocking this "little glitch" that is holding up the PS3 patch that the problem may not have been apparent until Sony went to put it on their system to test? It could be as simple as a few bytes of code that caused no issues internally with EA had a different effect on the Sony System? Heck, the problem could be with the code that delivers the patch to your system, and not a "glitch" in the game code itself.

All I am getting at is that sometimes problems do not become apparent until you move a product into its final destination. All the testing in the world does not always 100% guarentee that when a product is moved to another location (real or virtual in this case) some new issue may not arise.

Having said that.....I am a 360 owner so it is obviously easier for me to be patient and see this for what it is.

Peace.

[bconey23]

I agree, I dont see ONE THING FUNNY about reserving a game, waiting for it for months, end up paying $64.19 for it(FLA tax included) and then get it home that night and notice the basic of things, editing my depth chart doesn't work. Then I hear of a patch being released, and here I am 23 days after release date, and still have the same issue. I dont care how small the issue is, its not going to be funny, ESPECIALLY knowing that friends of mine that have 360 have gotten the patch, as of two days ago, and have moved on waiting for YET ANOTHER PATCH TO FIX GAMEPLAY ISSUES. I understand making a game is very complex, time consuming, and everything can't be caught, but this many issues is kinda sad. I only play college football, stopped playing Madden with the released of NCAA 02, so I look forward to this game every year, and this year, I have all these issues that I keep hearing are going to be fixed in a week, 5 days, 10 days, NOW 20+ DAYS, and guess what NO FIX...Back to the "being funny" comment, how is it funny that after testing with EA (a few stages) that a "small issue" pops up, what does that say about EA's so called testing!!!



Just an FYI in closing, I started a Dynasty with Lanteri87 rosters with 116 teams finished. The names stay there, and FIU is fine, but I have to fix my depth chart after every game, because it goes back to default each and everytime.

[EAreaper26]

[dlamb919]

Quote: Originally Posted by icicle22

Does it occur to anyone who is mocking this "little glitch" that is holding up the PS3 patch that the problem may not have been apparent until Sony went to put it on their system to test? It could be as simple as a few bytes of code that caused no issues internally with EA had a different effect on the Sony System? Heck, the problem could be with the code that delivers the patch to your system, and not a "glitch" in the game code itself. All I am getting at is that sometimes problems do not become apparent until you move a product into its final destination. All the testing in the world does not always 100% guarentee that when a product is moved to another location (real or virtual in this case) some new issue may not arise. Having said that.....I am a 360 owner so it is obviously easier for me to be patient and see this for what it is. Peace.

I'm not an expert on how the testing process works, but I would hope that a company like EA would test their products on the machines that they will be released on... thats a no brainer there in my opinion.

If that were not the case, I would recommend purchasing some systems to avoid these "small issues" in the future.

I understand that not every issue will be caught in the testing process, I'm sure some are never caught even after the release. But to release a patch that has a "small issue" is just inconceivable to me, especially when we are told that Sony (who tests every game, not just EA games) caught the problem the "small issue."

[icicle22]

In defense of the programmers and designers who are posting here and do not have to:

I do not think it was ever said that the issues that are plaguing this title are funny. I read this as the reason the initial patch got kicked back by Sony was a funny or silly reason. Perhaps the patch was fine but for some ridiculous reason Sony doesn't like a upper case letter where their software team insists on lower case letters in the patch description.

I know it sounds ridiculous but many companies enforce ridiculous little rules that slow delivery methods down, even though the rule itself is not important to the end result. I deal with it all the time in my job. It happens.

I have been on these boards for years and was a big 2k/ESPN guy. I liked the interaction with the 2k programmers and how the "little guy" was more available than the "evil juggernaut EA" (no offence guys....). EA never had a presence here and we all complained about it. Now we have someone here to at least explain the process and try to enlighten us as to what is going on. We have the big Kahuna actually listening and interacting with us.Let's not alienate them and push them away now.

[icicle22]

Quote: Originally Posted by dlamb919

I'm not an expert on how the testing process works, but I would hope that a company like EA would test their products on the machines that they will be released on... thats a no brainer there in my opinion. If that were not the case, I would recommend purchasing some systems to avoid these "small issues" in the future."

That's assuming that Sony makes their online systems available to EA to test. Perhaps this isn't the case. Sony may provide guidelines that EA has to adhere to create the patch but EA may not be able to physically place it on a Sony system until after Sony tests it. Maybe Microsoft is just easier to work with.

Peace.

[JIMIHEMMY]

Look,

Why don't us PS3 owners just relax and wait for the patch? This isn't the only game you have is it? You don't have anything else to play? How about go outside and enjoy the world!

Yeah, I spent my $60 on release day, saw all the problems on boards, and haven't played it in 3 weeks...and I won't until the patch comes out.

In the meantime, i have other things I can do.

Don't bash these guys for issues with the patch...if the guys who wrote the code and the guys who qc'd it had done everything correctly, we wouldn't have to wait for a patch because there would not be a need for one. Cut these guys some slack!

If we were all still on the PS2 and this happened, we would just be S.O.L. and would have to wait until next year.

I'm not trying to bash you guys, I'm just saying, show some patience and be happy that EA are working on trying to correct some issues instead of letting us hang out to dry.

With all of that said....I still can't believe this game got shipped like this. Next time, wait a few weeks before buying it so you will know what issues may be present and if you can live with them or not.

[dlamb919]

I agree I'm glad to see these guys on here as well, but them hearing complaints should not alienate themselves away from these boards. They work in a competitive sector of business, if they get upset/hurt by hearing complaints, maybe the video game market is not where they should be.

I think EA would know what both MS and Sony accept in their patches, so even if it's just "an upper case" here instead of "a lower case" there. Trust me, the same with me in my job. But I have the experience to know what is acceptable and what isn't and I adapt.

I've defended EA about the screw ups (look closer to the beginning of this thread), but the fact that a "small issue" is something that is laughable to an EA employee makes me think that the managment is not managing that company properly. These companies strive for perfection in their products for repeat business, but I'm afraid that some of the responses on here may lead to a drop in demand for 2010.

[dlamb919]

Quote: Originally Posted by JIMIHEMMY

Look, Why don't us PS3 owners just relax and wait for the patch? This isn't the only game you have is it? You don't have anything else to play? How about go outside and enjoy the world! Yeah, I spent my $60 on release day, saw all the problems on boards, and haven't played it in 3 weeks...and I won't until the patch comes out. In the meantime, i have other things I can do. Don't bash these guys for issues with the patch...if the guys who wrote the code and the guys who qc'd it had done everything correctly, we wouldn't have to wait for a patch because there would not be a need for one. Cut these guys some slack! If we were all still on the PS2 and this happened, we would just be S.O.L. and would have to wait until next year. I'm not trying to bash you guys, I'm just saying, show some patience and be happy that EA are working on trying to correct some issues instead of letting us hang out to dry. With all of that said....I still can't believe this game got shipped like this. Next time, wait a few weeks before buying it so you will know what issues may be present and if you can live with them or not.

I'm still playing the game as is... like I've said the patches are not as big a deal to me as others. I still love the game, and think its very playable as is.

What changed my opinion is what seems to be a lack of care... maybe not a good word there, how about a lack of due diligence, yeah I like that better. A lack of due diligence was performed for not only this game, but for the patch. I just don't except a "small issue" as laugable excuse, plain and simple. No one should except that, if we do, the quality of the product will decrease.

Again, I love the game and am still playing regardless of a patch or not. Also, I'm glad to see that the EA guys are here and interacting with these community. This is the only way for the game to take the next jump.

[oldman]

Quote: Originally Posted by bconey23

Just an FYI in closing, I started a Dynasty with Lanteri87 rosters with 116 teams finished. The names stay there, and FIU is fine, but I have to fix my depth chart after every game, because it goes back to default each and everytime.

I also started a dynasty with Lan's rosters and I have never had a problem with my depth chart.