FistofRage's Heisman sliders...

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

weaker team like Akron YES, I was down 10-0 to akron with Michigan the other day and crapping my pants. Div 2 teams... HECK NO! they are 100% worthless and if you lose to them you should probably quit the game entirely and find something else to do with your time.

Yeah don't play those FCS teams. I could literally give my little daughter a stack of graham crackers and the 360 controller, come back in 20 minutes and and be winning by 5 TD's.

I bet I could roll the scoreboard on one of those teams. EA football games used to go up to 255 points before the board rolled and the game went all goofy. I am pretty sure if that still happens, I could do that to an FCS team in 7 minute quarters.

[kgx2thez]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

A good durable back is the key to the running game. The defense seems to wear down late. I pounded the ball down BYU's throat because I didn't trust Jimmy Claussen to throw any passes. My Bruising HB finished the game with 49 carries for 199 yards and 3 TD's. But he was ripping off nice 8 to 10 yard gains up the middle late. My 2nd string TB had only 19 yards on 15 carries. He's a lighter scat back but with only 90 speed, he's pretty much worthless. He'll be #3 on the depth charts heading into the next game.

yeah, i've noticed that if I'm playing patient byt the late 3rd and definately 4th one of OL'men will turn yellow and the rest of my OL will pick up.

Do you guys run out of 1-back or 2-back sets?

I find that out of 1-back sets there are times where I hike it, hand it off and get tattooed (way to many big hits on Heisman btw). I really crack a smile when my FB picks up a blitzer or goes through the hole first and picks up a LB.

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by kgx2thez

yeah, i've noticed that if I'm playing patient byt the late 3rd and definately 4th one of OL'men will turn yellow and the rest of my OL will pick up. Do you guys run out of 1-back or 2-back sets? I find that out of 1-back sets there are times where I hike it, hand it off and get tattooed (way to many big hits on Heisman btw). I really crack a smile when my FB picks up a blitzer or goes through the hole first and picks up a LB.

I use a FB with MSU & ND. I use single back wit CMU and use a mixture with Colorado.

But with MSU & ND where I rush the ball 50+ times a game, I get a fb in there on 80% of the runs.

[stewaat]

These sliders are perfect IMHO for NCAA this year.

I have only noticed a few instances where the QB has thrown off his back foot or thrown it really quick.

On some plays there are too many broken tackles for my taste but that's life. I think I have mine at 30 for both HUM/CPU.

You're not going to have every aspect of the game be sim, but this set offers the best all-around experience.

In my bowl game I faced off against Pittsburgh and their stud HB LeSean McCoy.

I lost 28-31 I believe on a FG as time expired. I tried to ice the kicker, who was a redshirt freshman, but it didn't help. He still nailed a 53-yarder...kinda pissed me off haha. I might turn their power to 0! He's not that good! FG's aren't "gimme's" in college football at all!

I'll post some stats on the game later...I know my HB had another pretty good day with 100 yards and a score. I just remember having a great all-around experience. Not many WTF moments...except that damn FG!!!

[mar4380]

I have played like 10 games against the computer with USF and have not won yet. Always a close game but I have not won yet. I dont like that you can not throw any long balls. Any ball thrown mid-deep to the center of the field is picked off. I would consider myself above average at the game.

The computer can score whenver it wants by throwing short in the flat or over the middle and breaking a tackle or two.

I guess I should be thankful that it only does this when it needs to instead of everytime it has the ball

When I play with Florida I can win because all the weapons they have but it seems like with teams in the mid 80's it is hard to get a w with

[fistofrage]

You absolutely have to pound the ball if you have an advantage at the line. If you get pass happy and throw a few picks against even an inferior team, its probably over. The first quarter really determines the flow of the game.

On defense, you have to call formations based on their personel. If you try to sit back in a nickel D all game, you'll get beat.

You can complete a long pass, but its pretty rare. You need to catch them on single coverage against an inferior WR. Play action will work too if you have set it up with the run.

[stewaat]

I've started making it more difficult by controlling only a DL so I don't user pick. It's fun/frustrating to try and get to the QB and stop the run with a DL. I've had a couple sacks and stuffed some runs so it is possible...it makes the game that much more challenging. It also makes the talent around you matter more, which is should. No longer am I worried about getting the fastest safeties/corners I can find. Now I try and get the best guys who have good awareness and tackle...but still with decent speed.

On offense I also don't user catch anymore. I felt deep balls were a bit too easy to complete...so I just let the talent of my WRs take over. Once again, it makes it more challenging and you need to focus on guys who are talented, not just tall and/or fast.

[stewaat]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

You absolutely have to pound the ball if you have an advantage at the line. If you get pass happy and throw a few picks against even an inferior team, its probably over. The first quarter really determines the flow of the game. On defense, you have to call formations based on their personel. If you try to sit back in a nickel D all game, you'll get beat. You can complete a long pass, but its pretty rare. You need to catch them on single coverage against an inferior WR. Play action will work too if you have set it up with the run.

I agree with everything you said. You honestly have to guess right on your coverages...makes it a chess match. Problem is the CPU pretty much randomly calls their offensive plays...so it's not really tendency based.

In my game against Arizona St. I won 39-35 I fell behind early and told myself I had to chip away at the momentum. I tried to pick up a couple first downs instead of trying to get the points back right away.

With these sliders using Arizona @ Arizona St. (a better team), I was able to win my first game from behind going into the 4th quarter. They had the momentum early but in the second half I got it on my side. They made one bad pass and it was a game changer (INT for TD...only INT by their QB).

These are the most challenging, realistic sliders hand down for people who have a pretty good idea of how to call plays on offense and have pretty good stick skills. On defense they can be very, very tough and you need to know how to tackle and mixing up your defense helps. The patch really helped the zones...even though they still aren't perfect.

Man if you can't tell by my flurry of posts in this thread...I'm pumped!

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by stewaat

I've started making it more difficult by controlling only a DL so I don't user pick. It's fun/frustrating to try and get to the QB and stop the run with a DL. I've had a couple sacks and stuffed some runs so it is possible...it makes the game that much more challenging. It also makes the talent around you matter more, which is should. No longer am I worried about getting the fastest safeties/corners I can find. Now I try and get the best guys who have good awareness and tackle...but still with decent speed. On offense I also don't user catch anymore. I felt deep balls were a bit too easy to complete...so I just let the talent of my WRs take over. Once again, it makes it more challenging and you need to focus on guys who are talented, not just tall and/or fast.

I have always played this way. I will switch players to make a tackle downfield after the ball is caught on occassion, but otherwise, I pretty much strictly play the DT. I never user pick or user swat or switch guys while the pass is in the air.

I also never manually catch the balls, I let the receiver do that as well.

[doctorhay53]

Quote: Originally Posted by mar4380

I have played like 10 games against the computer with USF and have not won yet. Always a close game but I have not won yet. I dont like that you can not throw any long balls. Any ball thrown mid-deep to the center of the field is picked off. I would consider myself above average at the game. The computer can score whenver it wants by throwing short in the flat or over the middle and breaking a tackle or two. I guess I should be thankful that it only does this when it needs to instead of everytime it has the ball When I play with Florida I can win because all the weapons they have but it seems like with teams in the mid 80's it is hard to get a w with

Its not at all true that you can't throw any long balls over the middle. But you have to pick your spots very very carefully. You can hit the post quite easily, but you have to make sure the coverage is one-on-one, and there isn't a safety in the way.

If I am passing, depending on my pre-snap read I know exactly what I'm looking for at the snap of the ball. For instance, if I read cover one/cover 3 (they look similar usually) right after the snap I'm usually looking to see if the LB's are in man or zone. If they're in zone I look for the weak spot, If they're in man I look for the mismatch, but I kind of consider that cheesing this year.

If they are in cover 2, I look for which side of the field will have the open post route. Usually, one safety will drop back and angle more towards one sideline. It is safe to throw a post to his side, once the receiver gets between him and the ball.

If they are in cover 0, its almost always safe to throw the post.

When you do throw the post ALWAYS hold up on the stick to throw it high. As long as your QB makes a good throw there is almost no way for the DB to step in front and get the ball away from your guy, as long as he isn't 5'6" or something.

NEVER throw 'in' patterns against the zone unless you have a very good QB and WR. It is possible, but you have to gun it and it has to be accurate. If my pre-snap leads me to an 'in' pattern I always look for the LB's. If they drop into zone, I move straight to my second read. If they're in man, I'm in business.

What I do is always make the 'intended' receiver my first read. Then I allow myself to choose a second read pre-snap, sometimes a third as well. I decide what I need to see from the D to throw the first read, and usually my second read complements that.

Most of my picks don't come from bad reads but dropped passes that go straight into a defenders arms behind my receiver. The passing game is very tough to execute correctly on these settings, and to me the challenge is well worth the reward for picking apart that D on a game-winning drive, because I know I earned it.

So its not impossible to throw over the middle, you just have to be really good.