Lack of screens and picks by computer

[darrenp1518]

I have had this game for a week and a half after having live 09 and i have come to the conclusion that the reason there has always been such an inflation in the number of assists in this nba 2k series is because of the lack of on ball picks. If you watch real nba basketball everyone knows teams like the spurs and suns will pick and roll you to death...but also teams that are one on one oriented like the pistons now or the warriors still use a ton of ON BALL picks that lead into one on one moves which help create an unassisted midrange jumper. I even feel like the ai should automatically have the bigs come and set screens for the user regardless of if you ask for it or not, although it shouldnt be as much as the computer would have. But if you guys actually were to sit and count out the amount of on ball screens/hand offs from a big man to a guard then screening there defender you will even see an average of 2 per half court (not fast break) possession for that aren't even known for doing this!!! I wish there was a way the developers could put this in the game for the patch and that would pretty much solve the assist problem right there.

[NINJAK2]

Quote: Originally Posted by darrenp1518

I have had this game for a week and a half after having live 09 and i have come to the conclusion that the reason there has always been such an inflation in the number of assists in this nba 2k series is because of the lack of on ball picks. If you watch real nba basketball everyone knows teams like the spurs and suns will pick and roll you to death...but also teams that are one on one oriented like the pistons now or the warriors still use a ton of ON BALL picks that lead into one on one moves which help create an unassisted midrange jumper. I even feel like the ai should automatically have the bigs come and set screens for the user regardless of if you ask for it or not, although it shouldnt be as much as the computer would have. But if you guys actually were to sit and count out the amount of on ball screens/hand offs from a big man to a guard then screening there defender you will even see an average of 2 per half court (not fast break) possession for that aren't even known for doing this!!! I wish there was a way the developers could put this in the game for the patch and that would pretty much solve the assist problem right there.

you should edit the coach profiles and raise the run play slider for the teams. This may help you.

[darrenp1518]

so u mean to tell me if i max it out for a team that runs alot and just up their tempo and fast break sliders i will see a lot of picks??? im at work right now

[NINJAK2]

Quote: Originally Posted by darrenp1518

so u mean to tell me if i max it out for a team that runs alot and just up their tempo and fast break sliders i will see a lot of picks??? im at work right now

Can't say for certain darren but it's worth a shot. I use the nuggets a lot in game and I know the default run plays slider under their coach profile was like 30 out of 100 which is really low. Also under the default coach profiles I believe all coaches had their zone usage slider at 0 out of 100 which meant most teams almost never ran zone d's. Check Nogster's profile and check out his coach edits thread. I'm working on some of my own as well.

[pilonv1]

High assists have been in the 2k games for years, it's nothing new. It's more to do with how long you have after you make a pass to get an assist.

[jrose57]

Quote: Originally Posted by darrenp1518

I have had this game for a week and a half after having live 09 and i have come to the conclusion that the reason there has always been such an inflation in the number of assists in this nba 2k series is because of the lack of on ball picks. If you watch real nba basketball everyone knows teams like the spurs and suns will pick and roll you to death...but also teams that are one on one oriented like the pistons now or the warriors still use a ton of ON BALL picks that lead into one on one moves which help create an unassisted midrange jumper. I even feel like the ai should automatically have the bigs come and set screens for the user regardless of if you ask for it or not, although it shouldnt be as much as the computer would have. But if you guys actually were to sit and count out the amount of on ball screens/hand offs from a big man to a guard then screening there defender you will even see an average of 2 per half court (not fast break) possession for that aren't even known for doing this!!! I wish there was a way the developers could put this in the game for the patch and that would pretty much solve the assist problem right there.

hey, i am just about to make a move opposite of yours, i am planning to switch from 2k to live, why did u stop playing live, is there anything wrong? please let me know before i spend 60 on it, thansk!

[darrenp1518]

Quote: Originally Posted by jrose57

hey, i am just about to make a move opposite of yours, i am planning to switch from 2k to live, why did u stop playing live, is there anything wrong? please let me know before i spend 60 on it, thansk!

well u dont want to get live imo mainly because the ratings are just completely screwed up and there is no fast break attempt at all from the computer they will literally stop and wont try to score on the break!!!! and there is nothing you can do by ratings or sliders to adjust this...aside from that the game is excellent in drive and kick and the computer has a great midrange game but players like lebron simply wont attack the basket!! If u were to combine the strengths of both of these games i would pay 80 bucks for it because it would be a perfect game but overall 2k is better but is just really annoying at times because of no iso one on one plays

[darrenp1518]

and also i tried maxing out run the plays sliders and it doesnt increase on the ball picks...and to pillonv1 there isnt a problem with how the assists are counted there is a problem with how the cpu decides to take shots only off the pass...because i always end up with realistic assist numbers because i use one on one moves to set up midrange shots whereas the computer only takes spot up jumpers period!!! thats the entire problem which has to do with the coding of the game and is really annoying because live gets this part right