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Old 11-20-2008, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2k9 project, who can help?

What i want to do is a large task, and i want to know what would be the best way to go about it.


What i want to do is use the percentage a player shoots of his teams shots to dictate his 'shot tendency', Use the percentage of his shots that are 3pt shots for his 3pt tendency, and use 82games.com for the close and mid-range shots.

So what i would like to know is what would be the best way to do this on a large scale. Microsoft Exel? And if so, how?

I also wouldn't mind putting these on 2kshare, but as of now i was just doing it for myself. Im currently doing a two team test to see how this plays out, but again i would like to know how to do this easily on a large scale if the tests yield great results.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: I have a 2k9 project, who can help?

doing tendencies that way never works out.
your going to get wacked simmed stats, and the players will not perform on point within the team system.

the nba2k system is completely seperate to real%s etc..so the numbers dont translate accurately.

try it though..but from experience, doing it the pure facts and figures way doesnt translate.
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Re: I have a 2k9 project, who can help?

I wish it was based on % though.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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so what is it based on?
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Who the hell knows man LOL
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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the is some bullish, and im on ps3 so i cant get all the 2kshare files that people rave about
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Re: I have a 2k9 project, who can help?

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the is some bullish, and im on ps3 so i cant get all the 2kshare files that people rave about
Yes you can. I know Nogster's are on there are well as some others.
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Old 11-21-2008, 06:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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here are some tips for those who want to do their own tendencies.
this is the basic philosophy ive come to, through years of experience editing nba2k players and playing single player.

shot tendency: this primarily contributes to simmed stats...a players overall rating also makes a contribution as well...the higher the players rating, the higher his scoring average will be in relation to the shot tendency. shot tendency doesnt really have that big an effect on cpu gameplay, i think it helps with the players involvment in the offfense. but its main purpose is simmed stats.
the key is getting the players shot tendencies right in relation to their team mates. this takes testing... testing cpu gameplay, and simmed seasons to see how the averages are.

close shot: this tendency is self explanatory and affects players positions the same way. the higher it is, the more the player will look to shoot if in the key or around the basket. you will notice if a pg has the ball inside [they generally have a low inside shot tendency and are smaller], and is contested [ a defender is inbetween them and the hoop ], they will bring it out a lot, but the players with decent to high inside shot, will look to shoot/score.

mid range: primarly for cpu gameplay, doesnt really effect simmed stats. and heavily positional based.
this affects the players tendency to shoot jumpshots. HOWEVER. if the players position is at guard. specifically pg, the 3PT tendency has a bigger affect on the players tendency to shoot j's.. this is important to realize. and why translating pure stats and shot charts doesnt work out. to get the non 3pt shooting pgs to actually shoot outside shots, you have to over exxagerate the mid range tendency, or boost their 3pt tendency to unrealistic levels for that player. the mid range tendency works big time for forwards and centers. [small forwards still get over affected by 3pt tendency, but not as much as guards].
the drive the lane ratio affects a players jump shooting as well.
PGs will rarely shoot j's IF the 3pt tendency is below 30-35 odd.
PF's and C's will still shoot them if their inside is fairly high. and they are up to around 15ft. heck ive seen shaq with 0 mid range shoot jumpers if open..but there no way a pg will do the same..

3PT Shot: affects both cpu controlled outside shots as well as simmed 3pt attempts. this tendency has a huge affect on a players jump shooting tendency, specifically guards. you can put a player at 50 shot tendency, 99 mid, and 10 3pters, and another with the exact same ratings at 50 shot tendency, 99 3pt and 10 mid, and u can be sure that the latter player will be launching shots all over the place all the time. this is another reason why actual shot charts and pure stat translations simply dont work. so basically if u want your players to shoot more j's, raise their 3pt tendency to 50+. even 40+ would do it.
0-25: for pgs, they will rarely shoot jumpers of any kind, unless their shot tendency is huge, they are wide open, and their drive the lane is significantly lower in ratio.
SGs will face the same issue, just not quite as badly as their position is more off the ball and more scoring oriented. SF's similar again. PFs and C's wont be affected nearly as much and will probably shoot them if wide open.
25-40: the pgs will start to shoot a bit more. but so will their simmed stats go up to around 1 or 2 made a game.
40+ you will notice the players will be a lot more active in shooting outside shots, the higher from here, the more they shoot, to the point that if u are 60+ look out, if they have any opening to shoot, they will. this is also in relation to the ratio of the players drive the lane.
drive the lane: doesnt have the affect i would like. in2k9, all players will drive the lane if the lane is open to do so. regardless of tendency. it kind of works as the yin to 3pts yang. but for pgs, this tendency just doesnt have as much of an effect than it should.. u can leave a non 3pt shooting but high driving pg, [parker or ellis for example] wide open and unless u basically leave them completely, they wont attack u. when it should be that they are looking to attack all the time, any opening u give them, instead of shooting, they drive..but this doesnt happen nearly as well as it should.

NOTE: the teams coach profiles and game sliders all make subtle contributions to the players tendencies as well. but they are subtle.
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