CPU vs CPU sliders - Give these a try

[The C Unit]

After watching some great games in the NBA Playoffs, I got juiced up to play some 2K9 again. I've always been a cpu vs. cpu fan, so I tried out some of the roster/slider combinations on this site. While most of them played out pretty well, I wasn't quite satisfied with how they played for cpu vs. cpu. So I did some tinkering, and I think I've come up with a set that gives pretty realistic results statistically, but also more importantly, is fun and exciting to watch.

Some things to note: The most annoying thing of watching cpu vs. cpu in 2K9 was the unrealistic amount of backdoor passing. To counteract this, I've bumped up a lot of the defensive sliders as well as strength and quickness, which has greatly reduced this problem. I also bumped up mid range and 3pt shot success to make sure that FG% did not suffer from this slider adjustment. To make each team play uniquely, I also adjust the Close, Mid-Range, 3PT, Attack the Basket, and Look for Post Players tendencies each game to match the coach profile for the teams playing. This has made each game play out a little differently, and brings out each team's style of play a little more.

These are using the official 2k9 rosters and coach profiles:

Gameplay:
Difficulty - Pro
Game Speed - 49
11 Min Quarters

Fouls:
Charging - 90
Blocking - 95
Reaching - 40
Shooting - 55
Loose Ball - 100

Sliders:
Close Shot Success - 40/40
Mid-Range Success - 55/55
3PT Success - 60/60
Layup Success - 40/40
Dunk Success - 45/45
Dunks in Traffic - 100/100
Screen Success - 100/100

Steal Success - 45/45
Help Defense Strength - 80/80

Stealing - 45/45
Blocking - 80/80
Ball Handling - 50/50
Offensive Awareness - 5/5
Defensive Awareness - 90/90
Offensive Rebounding - 0/0
Defensive Rebounding - 0/0
Clutch Factor - 0/0
Speed - 49/49
Strength - 100/100
Stamina - 40/40
Durability - 50/50
Vertical - 25/25
Quickness - 80/80
Hustle - 50/50
Hands - 45/45
On Ball Defense - 80/80
Injury Severity - 50/50

Tendencies: As stated earlier, Close, Mid-Range, 3Pt, Attack the Basket, and Look for Post Players are based upon the coach profile. To do this, simply change the "Home" tendency sliders to match the home teams coach's sliders, and change the "Away" tendency sliders to match the away teams coach's sliders. In order for it to be Home/Away rather than User/CPU in the slider screen, the controller must be in the middle in the "Choose Side Screen"

Take Close Shots- Match Coach Slider for "Take Close Shots"
Take Mid-Range Shots - Match Coach Slider for "Take Mid-Range Shots"
Take 3PT Shots - Match Coach Slider for "Take 3PT Shots"
Attack the Basket - Match Coach Slider for "Attack the Basket"
Finish Strong Inside - 50/50
Look for Post Players - Match Coach Slider for "Take Close Shots"
Use Triple Threat - 65/65
Use Fadeaways - 65/65
Use Hookshots - 50/50
Attempts Putbacks - 5/5
Throws Flashy Passes - 5/5
Commit Fouls - 20/20
Play Passing Lanes - 55/55
Go For On-Ball Steals - 55/55
Contest Shots - 50/50
Use Sizeup Moves - 65/65

I've been getting some really good games with these so please give them a try and let me know what you think. I'm welcome to any suggestions to improve them even more. As I know people also like to see stats with sliders to validate them, I'll be sure to post some stats as I play some more games with these.

[The C Unit]

I'm currently using these sliders in Year 2 of my New Jersey Nets franchise. Here were the stats of a recent game vs. the Hornets:

Hornets / Nets

Score - 83/101
FGs - 31/77 (40%) / 36/73 (49%)
3PT - 8/13 (61%) / 10/25 (40%)
FT - 13/24 (54%) / 19/22 (86%)
Assists - 24/27
TOs - 11/8
Fouls - 11/13
Rebounds - 36/32
O Rebounds - 7/7
Steals - 6/10
Blocks - 2/14
PITP - 20/34
Second Chance Points - 4/4
Fast Break Points - 2/8

This was a fun one to watch. My Nets caught fire and torched the Hornets in the 2nd quarter with 37 points, hitting 5 threes during the quarter. Vince Carter led my team in scoring with 18 points on 6-15 shooting. Devin Harris put up 13 points and 10 assists. Brooke Lopez was a beast down low, with 16 points, 8 rebounds, and 6 blocks. Chris Paul had a solid night, with 18, 3, and 8. The Hornets were able to cut the lead to 8 in the 4th quarter after James Posey poured in 8 straight points in the span of a minute. However a couple of Hornets turnovers and a couple big shots by the Nets put the game out of reach.

I'll post some more results as I play some more games

[phillyphan1990]

These work beautifully. I am running them on 12 minute quarters and getting very realistic results. Thank you.

[The C Unit]

phillyphan, glad to hear you're liking them! Feel free to post some stats of the games you're playing, I'd love to see the results

[The C Unit]

Just watched another game, Nets vs. Pistons. Here were the stats:

Nets / Pistons

Score - 68 / 79
FG - 25/72 (34%) / 27/61 (44%)
3PT - 5/15 (33%) / 5/10 (50%)
FT - 13/20 (65%) / 20/25 (80%)
Assists - 18 / 20
TOs - 9 / 10
Fouls - 14 / 10
Rebounds - 33 / 33
O. Rebounds - 8 / 1
Steals - 6 / 6
Blocks - 7 / 8
PITP - 28 / 22
Bench Points - 13 / 28
Second Chance Points - 4 / 4
Fast Break Points - 5 / 8

The Pistons slow paced, defensive style of play won out in this game. Rodney Stuckey led all scorers with 18, A.I. put up 15, 3, and 6. Vince Carter led the Nets with 16 points, but struggled going 6-18 from the field. The defense just about shut my entire team down, but still a fun game to watch

[phillyphan1990]

Here we go. These are two Association games. I have my own created player on the Sixers who is a 99 in everything (but a 5'9" PG lol) which skews it a little bit but still came out quite realistic I think. I exited out of the games, so only the box score is available, meaning that pitp and fast break stats aren't available.

Game 1:
Raptors at Sixers
Points: 92 - 98
Rebounds: 36 - 42
Ast: 25 - 26
Stl: 8 - 6
Blk: 10 - 3
TO: 8 - 11
FG: 38-90 (42.2%) - 36-78 (46.2%)
3PT: 6-14 (42.9%) - 2-6 (33.3%)
FT: 10-13 (76.9%) - 24-28 (85.7%)
Off: 6 - 2
PF: 15 - 11

Raptors Leaders
C. Bosh: 39 min, 23 pts, 7 reb, 5 ast, 5 stl, 3 blk, 1 to, 11-32 fg, 0-2 3pt, 1-2 ft
A. Bargnani: 32 min, 19 pts, 7 reb, 3 ast, 1 blk, 1 to, 9-14 fg, 1-1 3pt
A. Parker: 37 min, 13 pts, 5 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, 3-7 fg, 1-2 3pt, 6-6 ft
J. Calderon: 35 min, 12 pts, 4 reb, 10 ast, 2 blk, 1 to, 5-10 fg, 2-3 3pt
S. Marion: 35 min, 10 pts, 1 reb, 2 ast, 2 blk, 2 to, 4-9 fg, 1-3 3pt, 1-2 ft

Sixers Leaders
A. Iguodala: 37 min, 23 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl, 9-15 fg, 5-5 ft
My Created PG: 40 min, 18 pts, 4 reb, 5 ast, 6 to, 6-20 fg, 0-3 3pt, 6-6 ft
S. Dalembert: 36 min, 15 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 2 blk, 1 to, 7-12 fg, 1-2 3pt, 0-1 ft
E. Brand: 33 min, 11 pts, 11 reb, 2 ast, 1 blk, 3-10 fg, 5-6 ft
A. Miller: 31 min, 10 pts, 3 reb, 7 ast, 2 to, 3-5 fg, 4-4 ft
T. Young: 21 min, 10 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl, 1 to, 4-9 fg, 2-2 ft

Game 2:
Knicks at 76ers
PTS: 100 -- 88
REB: 37 -- 34
AST: 28 -- 17
STL: 10 -- 7
BLK: 9 -- 5
TO: 9 -- 12
FG: 36-82 (43.9%) -- 35-70 (50.0%)
3PT: 6-18 (33.3%) -- 1-4 (25.0%)
FT: 22-24 (91.7%) -- 17-25 (68.0%)
OFF: 11 -- 5
PF: 14 -- 15

Knicks Leaders
D. Lee: 38 min, 29 pts, 11 reb, 1 ast, 3 blk, 10-14 fg, 1-3 3pt, 8-8 ft
L. Hughes: 35 min, 22 pts, 2 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk, 2 to, 8-18 fg, 4-7 3pt, 2-2 ft
A. Harrington: 38 min, 16 pts, 11 reb, 2 ast, 3 stl, 1 blk, 2 to, 6-13 fg, 4-6 ft
W. Chandler: 36 min, 14 pts, 1 reb, 3 ast, 3 stl, 2 blk, 2 to, 5-12 fg, 0-2 3pt, 4-4 ft
C. Duhon: 38 min, 5 pts, 13 ast, 1 blk, 1 to, 2-9 fg, 1-4 3pt

Sixers Leaders
My Created PG: 36 min, 22 pts, 4 ast, 1 to, 10-21 fg, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft
E. Brand: 35 min, 21 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 2 blk, 3 to, 9-17 fg, 1-1 3pt, 2-2 ft
A. Iguodala: 40 min, 20 pts, 8 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl, 1 to, 7-16 fg, 6-10 ft
S. Dalembert: 36 min, 10 pts, 12 reb, 2 blk, 1 to, 5-7 fg

[The C Unit]

Phillyphan, looks like you're getting some solid results! Unfortunately my Nets didn't make the playoffs (I've missed the playoffs both years in my franchise so far), but I like to watch any game 7s in the playoffs. I just watched another great game, game 7 in the second round of the eastern conference semi finals. Here were the stats

Hawks vs. Magic

Score - 85 / 96
FG - 32/71 (45%) / 36/74 (48%)
3PT - 3/8 (37%) / 11/19 (57%)
FT - 18/26 (69%) / 13/18 (72%)
Assists - 22 / 23
TOs - 8 / 8
Fouls - 9 / 13
Rebounds - 36 / 39
O Rebounds - 6 / 5
Steals - 7 / 7
Blocks - 5 / 5
PITP - 40 / 36
Bench - 16 / 16
Second Chance - 8 / 10
Fast Break - 10 / 2

Pretty even at half time, but a great defensive 3rd quarter for the Magic gave them the edge, as they held the Hawks to just 14 points. The Hawks made a late rally in the 4th quarter cutting it as low as 8, but a crucial missed layup by Joe Johnson followed by a dagger 3 by Jameer Nelson sealed the deal.

It was awesome watching Dwight Howard, he was an absolute beast. He backed guys down all night throwing down dunks with authority. His stat line was 21, 16, 3, 3, and 2. All 5 Magic starters were in double figures scoring. The Hawks leading scorer was free agent acquisition Ben Gordon, who put up 21 on 9-13 shooting. Josh Smith also had an impressive stat line of 12, 9, 4, 3, and 2. Overall, great game to watch.

[johnriii]

wow...these look great...NBA playoffs have me back in the swing of things on 2k9 as well, but I couldn't find my old CPU vs CPU slider set. I'm gonna have to try these over the weekend...thanks for the work on these!

[johnriii]

here is my first game with these sliders: Bulls 95 grizzlies 89

FG% bulls 44 grizzlies 46
3pt fg bulls 3/9 grizzlies 1/6
free throw bulls 22/30 grizzlies 16/21
steals bulls 6 grizzlies 3
blocks bulls 6 grizzlies 11
fast break points bulls 4 grizzlies 6

overall, not a bad game, stats are pretty realistic for the most part. there should have been more 3pt attempts, and more fast break points, but I will leave all sliders alone for at least the next four games and see what happens. BTW, this was with 11 min quarters.

[johnriii]

Magic 122 Bulls 117

fg % magic 49 bulls 51
3pt fg magic 19/28 bulls 6/12
Free throws magic 19/24 bulls 27/30
steals magic 9 bulls 4
blocks magic 4 bulls 4

highlights: Blake griffin (I created him for bulls LOL) scored 38 with 11 rebs 16/18 ft.
C. Lee (magic) 44 pts on 14/21 from the field 10/13 3ptrs
D. Howard 14 pts 11 rebs
J. Nelson 20 assists

not bad, but 3pts were really out of wack, compared to last game. D. Rose is out for the bulls, so that may have made a difference in this game...