GAMEPLAY POSSIBLY FIXED.....CHECK OUT THE COACH SLIDERS AND TENDENCIES.

[TahJay561]

I tell you this **** helps DRASTICALLY when I play.

I play with Player Lock on and I can't tell you how many errant shots and stupid passes the computer on my team will make. Well no more!

[TahJay561]

Quote: Originally Posted by Neon1

Im starting to think the problem might be with the Hornets. I possibly may have overlooked re-editing them when the new tweaks were made....seems like they are always somewhere in the mix when a bad game happens. Im at work ill check them out in the early am. i think they have the same issue with 3pt frequency. I know i corrected CP3's rating and Daniels but not the others.

I watched a few games between the Hornets/Nuggets yesterday and didn't see anything way out of the ordinary. In the first half of the first few games I noticed the Hornets p.i.p were about 70% of their total score but it was mostly Tyson Chandler getting garbage buckets and David West hitting jumpers from the very top corner of the key. I thought p.i.p were high but my mind did a 180 when I noticed how many of the points were from 10' jumpers with a players foot in the key.

I'd say they may have took an inordinate amount of three pointers, but they have the shooters and by the end of the games they don't have too much more attempts than the other team, from what I've seen.

[balage76]

Quote: Originally Posted by ffaacc03

Balage, when I did my work of redoing nogster ratings, it took me 20 min to write down each player ratings and another 20 min with the coach & players tendencies ... 40 to 45 min (per team) really focused on doing that ... and I was only copying them ...

Oops, sorry for that. It's a little more time, than I said.

How did you do that ? Wrote the numbers on a paper, than from the paper to excel ?

But we have to find the best way to make spreadsheets in less time, because Neon's thing is a big discovery ! Everybody have to try this out !

[CSlater21]

I agree with each person taking a team. I will start and take the Blazers. I will write every player and coach rating/tendency down and upload on a spreadsheet.

As long as Neon is ok with this. This way we can keep a running sheet.

[balage76]

Quote: Originally Posted by CSlater21

I agree with each person taking a team. I will start and take the Blazers. I will write every player and coach rating/tendency down and upload on a spreadsheet. As long as Neon is ok with this. This way we can keep a running sheet.

O.K. It should be O.K, and thank you !

I think Blazers and another team will be enough, and after Neon will finish this project (no more changes) the other guys can make the other teams.

Thanks bro

[sheva07]

Quote: Originally Posted by balage76

O.K. It should be O.K, and thank you ! I think Blazers and another team will be enough, and after Neon will finish this project (no more changes) the other guys can make the other teams. Thanks bro

i will take care about the 76ers....

[CSlater21]

Quote: Originally Posted by sheva07

i will take care about the 76ers....

Great! That will give us two teams to test with. Lets just start with those two.

Actually, can you do the lakers instead? The Blazers and Lakers match up pretty well.

[tjnigs]

Quote: Originally Posted by CSlater21

I agree with each person taking a team. I will start and take the Blazers. I will write every player and coach rating/tendency down and upload on a spreadsheet. As long as Neon is ok with this. This way we can keep a running sheet.

Thanks Balage, yup I tried it on stizz's spreadsheet...

Sorry if my post was way too late hehe, but I have to test it 10 games atleast to be sure of what I am saying, so great Neon have adjusted it already, hope its better.

Yeah thanks for taking the initiative CSlater, I know its really tedious to convert to spreadsheet but in this way there will be more people than can try this out.

Maybe neon1 you can try doing jazz, thunder or 76ers to compare the 3pt attempts, they only average 10-13 attempts a game. We can also fix this through coach profiles.

I'm really optimistic with this roster, I really like how Neon1 sees it, we share the same mindset towards attributes and ratings. I actually stopped my roster edit project because of this, its useless to continue bec we are doing the same approach. Although I will be glad to help of any kind to Neon1, for this roster project.

Neon1, have you thought of lowering down the take close shot a few more points down? This may help with the PitP, and with my tests, I didn't really see any ill effects of lowering it. In the contrary, as I have said repeatedly, we should learn to appreciate 2k9's engine, which is to score a little bit more down low...

Anyway, keep up the good work...

[Bearsfan1]

Quote: Originally Posted by tjnigs

Hi Neon1, First of all thanks for making and sharing a project like this for all of us. I know how much time you spend on editing each team. (I'm on PS3 and editing the two teams available for us is already a buzz, how about 30 right?) Anyway, here are my findings, comments and suggestions. Hope it will be useful for you. 1. I agree with most of here, the CPU takes too much 3's. I'm not really bugged by it, because there is a simple fix with the slider's tendency, but the whole point of this is to have a default slider by correcting attributes and tendencies of players. So you might want to look at it. 2. Isomotion. There is also an easy fix with this through the sliders, but I think lowering down it abit can help. 3. Blocks and Steals. Too many of them. 4. Cheesing with superstars, I can still do it, but hey this is very hard to adjust bec. they have to be rated good so if we play with them, they will act like their real life counterparts. 5. CPU taking too many early shots, the scores and attempts are inflated. My per quarter average is 35-45pts. Maybe coach profile fix with run plays and tempo? I haven't adjusted the rules, and I think it can help a lot with this through dead ball situations. I like the fact that you have lowered the attributes for lay-ups and close shots, and increased the mid tendency, if I were to make my own roster, I would have done the same. Keep up the great work, I'll post my stats the next games I'll have. And if you don't mind I'll tweak the sliders a bit for realism. I'll post here which ones I touched, and maybe you can incorporate it with the roster? I like games to be really really hard though, so the sliders may favor the CPU more. Thanks again!

I haven't had any problems with blocks. The league average per game is around 7 and most of the time I get 3 or 4 per team..

As for the Pip, I have gotten pretty good results with each team. The last game I played was the inflated one as I was the Bulls versus Hornets and the Hornets had 60 but I can actually believe that because it is the BULLS. Miami Heat scored 60 pip against them not too long ago in a real game. But I will keep testing and get an average.

[sheva07]

Quote: Originally Posted by CSlater21

Great! That will give us two teams to test with. Lets just start with those two. Actually, can you do the lakers instead? The Blazers and Lakers match up pretty well.

i can do both of them on the same spreedsheet.