GAMEPLAY POSSIBLY FIXED.....CHECK OUT THE COACH SLIDERS AND TENDENCIES.

[Neon1]

Quote: Originally Posted by phant030

^^^Everyone one hear wants average, no variables...lol.....How can assists be a little high? There's no set number on how many/little assist teams should get. Play the same game with the same settings 10 times and then compare. U cant play one game then determine..."assists are a little high''...Cant watch NBA no more, Kobe scored 81...gameplay is too arcadey...

I was actually gonna remind everyone of the same thing lmao. Even though i know its "possible" If Kobe ever goes off on me for 81 im throwing the controller through the TV screen!! haha

But yeah guys i mean in plently of real games ive seen numerous anomalies on a game to game basis. Ive seen the Magic MAKE 18 3's against the Grizz and weird stuff like that, Hell EVERYBODY saw us put 65 in a half on the Hornets on Christmas.

Ive also seen 70 at a half. I saw Skiles get 30 assists. Nick Anderson score 50 against the Nets after sitting out the first quarter with the flu...Melo had 35 in a quarter or something like that that this year..

i mean its all an average. Average is only the middle ground mark of every stats high and low points.

[crowned12]

Neon you made the game challenging and realistic again and I thank you so much for that, I enjoy the game now. I can't wait till you finish the rest of the teams, I tried playing with nogster sliders and roster but It was too east even on the higest difficulity, with that roster it's totally different, I tried alot of rosters and all of them were too easy for me even on HOF...
GREAT JOB BRO!

[Bearsfan1]

Alright here is my latest game. I crushed the Celtics as I was the Nuggets. The finals score was 106-87.

Team Stats:

Nuggets

42/80
3 Pointers- 8/13
Free Throws- 14/18
Assists- 30
Turnovers- 9
Team Fouls- 13
Total Rebounds- 46
Offensive- 5
Steals- 8
Blocks- 4
Points in the paint- 32!
Bench Points- 40 (Jr Smith was a beast )
Second Chance- 7
Fast Break Points- 3

Celtics

33/82
3 Pointers- 8/27
Free Throws- 13/21
Assists- 21
Turnovers- 11
Team Fouls- 11
Total Rebounds- 39
Offensive- 7
Steals- 6
Blocks- 2
Points in the Paint- 36!
Bench Points- 15
Second Chance- 15
Fast Break Points- 2

Player Stats:

Nuggets

Carmelo Anthony- 34 min 23 points 6 rebounds 2 assists 1 steal 9-21 FG 1-5 3PFG
J.R Smith- 25 min 21 points 1 rebound 4 assists 2 steals 8-11 FG 5-5 3PFG
Chauncey Billups- 30 min 15 points 2 rebounds 12 assists 6-10 FG 1-1 3PFG
Nene- 34 min 14 points 13 rebounds 2 assists 1 block 5-7 FG
K Mart- 28 min 13 points 8 rebounds 1 assist 2 steals 6-10 FG

C's

KG- 37 min 23 points 17 rebounds 1 assist 11-18 FG
Pierce- 39 min 18 points 2 rebounds 3 assists 5-10 FG
Ray Allen- 38 min 14 points 2 rebounds 1 assist 1 steal 5-16 FG 3-7 3PFG
Rondo- 35 min 11 points 4 rebounds 7 assists 2 steals 3-9 FG
Perkins- 28 min 6 points 7 rebounds 2 assists 1 block 3-6 FG

Observations:

I loved the points in the paint. Kind of like in the last game I played the Celtics scored early in the paint. They had 24 Pip at halftime as I had 18. It ended up almost exactly how it does in a real NBA game. The Nuggets had 32 Pip and the C's had 36 Pip. I think I probably should have shot a little more 3's because that's what the Nuggets do but I had alot of open shots with Carmelo from mid range when he came off screens. I tried to get him to the line as much as possible with his back to the basket abilities, but I'm not a very good post player as far as being creative so he only went to the line 6 times. O well, it was fun to blowout a team for once and I know the Nuggets are capable of doing that as long as JR Smith has a big game like he did. I really enjoyed this game, thanks Neon! haa.

[Neon1]

Im editing the Bulls right now and look how crazy similar they graded out..

Remember...I DO NOT make up or guess on ratings or tendencies the Overall rating just "is what it is" according to the statistics entered +/- the variables.

the number following the overall in () is the players estimated "League Value or True Overall". Its the one that matters with trade value and contracts demand value. Basically even though Rose and Hughes are both rated at 81...theres no way your getting that deal done without serious adding throw ins.

91. PG Rose 81 (88)
92. PF/C Gooden 81 (74)
93. SG/SF Hughes 81 (70)
95. PG/SG Hinrich 81(73)
102. PG/SG B.Gordon 80 (82) *all small combo G'primaries PG/SG
154. C Gray 78 (69)
156. SF Deng 78 (77)
163. PF/SF Nocioni 78/80 (69 or 70)*If hes at SF/PF he'd start.
165. C Noah 78 (70)
168. PF Tyrus Thomas 78 (72)


Aaron Gray's career ORB plus his huge size always makes him more valuable Overall wise anyways.

BG like any small PG always gets an overated overall, because of the weights. Hes an 86 listed at Primary SG. As PG/SG hes a 80 and would not start above Rose,Hinrich or even Hughes. So he rates exacly what he is a 6th man sparkplug scorer off the bench.
On this team/system he'd get most of his minutes at the SG behind Hughes. If Hinrich is on IR he'd get 11 a game at PG and 25 at the SG. If hes at PG against you beware of the occasional quick pullup 3 without him running the offense much. Preperation is key.


Derrick Rose will get his numbers but aparently hes not quite as good as his nightly statline just yet. His potential rated out sky high at 95 though....so look out. Also mean his trade value and free agent demands will be sky high too (88).

[Neon1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bearsfan1

Alright here is my latest game. I crushed the Celtics as I was the Nuggets. The finals score was 106-87. Team Stats: Nuggets 42/80 3 Pointers- 8/13 Free Throws- 14/18 Assists- 30 Turnovers- 9 Team Fouls- 13 Total Rebounds- 46 Offensive- 5 Steals- 8 Blocks- 4 Points in the paint- 32! Bench Points- 40 (Jr Smith was a beast ) Second Chance- 7 Fast Break Points- 3 Celtics 33/82 3 Pointers- 8/27 Free Throws- 13/21 Assists- 21 Turnovers- 11 Team Fouls- 11 Total Rebounds- 39 Offensive- 7 Steals- 6 Blocks- 2 Points in the Paint- 36! Bench Points- 15 Second Chance- 15 Fast Break Points- 2 Player Stats: Nuggets Carmelo Anthony- 34 min 23 points 6 rebounds 2 assists 1 steal 9-21 FG 1-5 3PFG J.R Smith- 25 min 21 points 1 rebound 4 assists 2 steals 8-11 FG 5-5 3PFG Chauncey Billups- 30 min 15 points 2 rebounds 12 assists 6-10 FG 1-1 3PFG Nene- 34 min 13 points 13 rebounds 2 assists 1 block 5-7 FG K Mart- 28 min 13 points 8 rebounds 1 assist 2 steals 6-10 FG C's KG- 37 min 23 points 17 rebounds 1 assist 11-18 FG Pierce- 39 min 18 points 2 rebounds 3 assists 5-10 FG Ray Allen- 38 min 14 points 2 rebounds 1 assist 1 steal 5-16 FG 3-7 3PFG Rondo- 35 min 11 points 4 rebounds 7 assists 2 steals 3-9 FG Perkins- 28 min 6 points 7 rebounds 2 assists 1 block 3-6 FG Observations: I loved the points in the paint. Kind of like in the last game I played the Celtics scored early in the paint. They had 24 Pip at halftime as I had 18. It ended up almost exactly how it does in a real NBA game. The Nuggets had 32 Pip and the C's had 36 Pip. I think I probably should have shot a little more 3's because that's what the Nuggets do but I had alot of open shots with Carmelo from mid range when he came off screens. I tried to get him to the line as much as possible with his back to the basket abilities, but I'm not a very good post player as far as being creative so he only went to the line 6 times. O well, it was fun to blowout a team for once and I know the Nuggets are capable of doing that as long as JR Smith has a big game like he did. I really enjoyed this game, thanks Neon! haa.

Perkins with only 6PTS just warms my soul....

[Bearsfan1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Neon1

Im editing the Bulls right now and look how crazy similar they graded out.. Remember...I DO NOT make up or guess on ratings or tendencies the Overall rating just "is what it is" according to the statistics entered +/- the variables. 91. PG Rose 81 92. PG/SG Gordon 81/86 *all small combo G'primaries PG/SG 93. SG/SF Hughes 81 98. PF/C Gooden 81 118. C Gray 79 156. SF Deng 78 163. PF/SF Nocioni 78/80*If hes at SF/PF he'd start. Aaron Gray's career ORB plus his huge size always makes him more valuable. BG like any small PG always gets an overated overall, because of the weights. Derrick Rose will get his numbers but aparently hes not quite as good as his nightly statline just yet. His potential rated out sky high at 96 though....so look out. Also mean his trade value and free agent demands will be sky high too.

Wow I can't wait to play a game with them! It makes me want to vomit seeing Deng at a 78 with that fat contract we gave him this offseason :|. But I'm sure that's right, he's just played like garbage this season. I'm pretty shocked that Gray is 79 because I hate watching him play because he's so ungodly slow and is a turnover machine! He only gets rebounds that come right to him hahaha. 96 potential rating for D Rose?! Nice!! I'll probably start an association once you get all the teams done. Are you going to be uploading the Bulls to your roster tonight or later throughout the week? Just wondering.

[TahJay561]

Quote: Originally Posted by Neon1

I was actually gonna remind everyone of the same thing lmao. Even though i know its "possible" If Kobe ever goes off on me for 81 im throwing the controller through the TV screen!! haha But yeah guys i mean in plently of real games ive seen numerous anomalies on a game to game basis. Ive seen the Magic MAKE 18 3's against the Grizz and weird stuff like that, Hell EVERYBODY saw us put 65 in a half on the Hornets on Christmas. Ive also seen 70 at a half. I saw Skiles get 30 assists. Nick Anderson score 50 against the Nets after sitting out the first quarter with the flu...Melo had 35 in a quarter or something like that that this year.. i mean its all an average. Average is only the middle ground mark of every stats high and low points.

My man! Magic fan. You from O-Town? Remember the Orena days? Shaq tryin to bring the ball up court, Dennis Scott for 3, Penny and his doll, and Orange Blossom Trail was in the middle of that terrible reconstruction.

memories, I used to sit with the Sign Guy back in 95 up in the second deck. You probably saw me on tv and never knew.

[sheva07]

HI neon,

first of all,i thank you for the hard work you're doing!!!! i'm a pc owner and i would ask you if can post a sheet with all the team edited. i know perfectly it'a a huge work but i'm very addicted!!!

[Neon1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bearsfan1

Wow I can't wait to play a game with them! It makes me want to vomit seeing Deng at a 78 with that fat contract we gave him this offseason :|. But I'm sure that's right, he's just played like garbage this season. I'm pretty shocked that Gray is 79 because I hate watching him play because he's so ungodly slow and is a turnover machine! He only gets rebounds that come right to him hahaha. 96 potential rating for D Rose?! Nice!! I'll probably start an association once you get all the teams done. Are you going to be uploading the Bulls to your roster tonight or later throughout the week? Just wondering.

Im so tempted to drop his ORB but i cant deny him his ability. As BAD as i want to i cant he has played 1119 minutes and had 137 offensive rebounds in that time. Thats a 6.1 per48 orb rate. insane.

He has more than double the minumum sample size (500 minutes) so id be doing a disservice by letting personal bias get in the way of realism....sadly...lol

But i actually need to drop my scale back down on ORB for everybody anyways, big men are getting overvalued. That way it wouldnt be cheating the system since everybody would still be on the lower scale and not just a selected few.

[Neon1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bearsfan1

Are you going to be uploading the Bulls to your roster tonight or later throughout the week? Just wondering.

Yeah the Bulls will definately be up tonight. Only have Sef, Hunter, Simmons and Ruffin left to do. Then all i gotta do is update the Bulls profile (the current ones stats are 10 games outdated so all the un finished teams will change slightly according to thier latest tendencies)

The Bulls will be finished shortly. Hey look at the Bulls and let me know if there are any accesory updates needed. I noticed Rose wasnt wearing his arm sleeve when we kicked your butts on New Years....Is that the norm now?