GAMEPLAY POSSIBLY FIXED.....CHECK OUT THE COACH SLIDERS AND TENDENCIES.

[Grizz]

so, If I start an association with all the computer trading off and trading override on, can I keep things "even" by just doing trades myself (possibly just following what the real NBA trades are)?
To me, Neon's rosters make the game flow way better than others so i am trying to figure a way to still have a normal association with his rosters.


BTW, as far as the freezing goes (I was getting it also), I installed the game to my hard drive, deleted my profile, and turned off all 2Kserver connections and played a quick game without freezing.

I think Razr suggested this and it seemed to work, at least for 1 game.

[reeftan]

Hey guys I'm using Neon's latest roster and I play season mode. I was wondering...I noticed that when I simulate games the results are almost perfect, but when I actually play a game in my sason the results are dramatically different. I have tried all difficulty levels and all sliders are at default w/ Neon's foul settings any help would be appreciated. I'm not a cheeser, but the cpu hoists threes and almost never drives to the bucket. I also notice almost no fouls unless I just kamikaze into the lane. What am I doing wrong?

[Neon1]

Quote: Originally Posted by nogster

dude.. you will struggle to get superstars like wade, lebron, kobe as they are rated far higher than the others..along with having very high potential.. and im assuming you raised their ratings too like you said..which makes it even harder... because thats been my point... but try trading for instance malik rose for a decent player....because rose is rated a crazy high 79 in this roster..you can get someone pretty decent in return him.. like say chris wilcox. [76] or even nick collison! yep both trades just got accepted.. basically rose is as valuable on and off the court as these 2 thunder players. so why wouldnt the cpu accept the deal..under this rosters rating system. its fair. or use rose as trade bait in a package deal with someone decent on the knicks to get a star that is rated lower than you would expect under these ratings formulas.. like this for instance.. rose [79] harrington [80] jerome james [73] 4 sheed wallace [79] prince [78] acker [70 ACCEPTED. i just traded 2 stiffs and a chucker for prince and sheed! simply because the overall ratings are equal. when in reality they are far apart in value. or how about this trade. m.rose [79] duhon [79] 4 iguodala [80] ACCEPTED. again. this is because of the rating system this roster uses. it goes against how the game is designed. and thats why you can exploit the cpu in trades so blatently. the cpu thinks its getting a good fair deal because the overall rating dictates that it is. this is a fact of the game...it really cant be debated..the proof is all here. ignoring the importance of the overall rating will result in a flawed roster when it comes to association gaming. like it or not.

Dude seriously what is your deal?

The rosters ratings are the ONLY part finished right now. The Association stuff has not been addressed, in the timely manner that was expected because i have been busy with real life stuff.

The potential ratings have not been tuned yet to compensate for the overall ratings being closer.

This is something that was brought up by me WAAAY back when i started this whole thing. I explained in the VERY beginning that the potential ratings would be modified to balance out player value.

I just dont get why you must come in starting a new "hey everybody heres a warning about using neon's rosters" every week.

Or a "Well listen everybody, Neon's rosters only seem like they work because of (fill in the blank)".

If my ratings are so wrong and everybodys are right then why do a billion sliders have to be applied to get the same or near same results?

Would i be right to jump in your thread every week saying "hey everybody, im not bashing his hard work but, did you know that they only play this way because of all the sliders and its not his ratings?"

Why cant you just do your rosters your way, and let me do mine my way? I havent borrowed a single idea from anyone here's rosters so i obviously have my own way of doing and correcting things.

[Neon1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Grizz

BTW, as far as the freezing goes (I was getting it also), I installed the game to my hard drive, deleted my profile, and turned off all 2Kserver connections and played a quick game without freezing. I think Razr suggested this and it seemed to work, at least for 1 game.

I already had it downloaded to my hard drive, should i delete it, re-download it and then follow the steps?

[RAZRr1275]

Quote: Originally Posted by Neon1

I already had it downloaded to my hard drive, should i delete it, re-download it and then follow the steps?

not sure. I don't have a 360. Just what I found on google

[Grizz]

Not sure, Neon. I just followed the idea to see if it would work.
Not sure what was going on. I only played 1 game, also, so it may freeze again when I try another quick game.
Is it only freezing on quick games or in association too?

I know I had 2K auto roster download on and received an update the night it froze. Your rosters (1.30) seemed to work fine on the couple games before that.

[Neon1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Grizz

Not sure, Neon. I just followed the idea to see if it would work. Not sure what was going on. I only played 1 game, also, so it may freeze again when I try another quick game. Is it only freezing on quick games or in association too? I know I had 2K auto roster download on and received an update the night it froze. Your rosters (1.30) seemed to work fine on the couple games before that.

Quick game screen freezes after selecting the team for me.

I received a 2K Update also and same situation here, froze ever since.

[astarr]

Neon,

I know that you are dealing with the freezing issue. I already posted the trades I completed for your review. You should note that some of these trades I couldn't get the first day of association. I already knew (because I had started an association and was several games in) that there were some trades that had worked a week or two into the season on my association. So, I simulated a week or two and completed the trades. During the season these guy's ratings fluctuate and so you get some crazy trades because of the similarity in ratings.

BTW, I am not worried about it because I understand that you haven't tweaked this part of the game.

Let me know if you need more testing on trades. I have a two-month old daughter that keeps me up until about 4am every morning, so I have some time.

[NikSaban]

I had the same freezing issue on Saturday. I redownloaded the rosters tonight and haven't had a problem since. I didn't have to delete my profile or install on the HD.

[bigpun23]

when are u going to finish the updates?