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Old 04-04-2013, 09:30 AM   #91
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Basically, to me J.R. Smith is not much more than a glorified Ricky Davis...
I'll give Smith credit for his offense. The man has been a beast, since the ASW. The only bad games he had was against Golden State and Indiana (Guess who was guarding him ). Where 2K Sports is messing up is on his defensive ratings.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:36 AM   #92
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I'll give Smith credit for his offense. The man has been a beast, since the ASW. The only bad games he had was against Golden State and Indiana (Guess who was guarding him ). Where 2K Sports is messing up is on his defensive ratings.
Absolutely, but I doubt that he'll maintain any of this. It's simply the formula of "Playing for the Knicks"+"A few good weeks" = "immediate rating boost" that I don't get.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:58 AM   #93
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Really? Smith takes 5.5 threes and 4 midrange shots per game. So no, that's not desperation at all.

Alright, let's put it into context...

Parsons actually is the second option on the Rockets. He's their 2nd best scorer and only Harden takes more shots. Oh, and talking about 3s...Parsons does not even attempt more three pointers than Smith...so all of your statements are simply objectively wrong.

Let's say Parsons or Hayward would play on the Knicks instead of Smith and put up their usual efficient stats while Smith chucks away in Houston or Utah. Please tell me, would you still defend J.R. if he wasn't playing for your favourite team?

Also, bailout shots? Really? Without going into depth, the Knicks are a very well built team and a coach who knows how to make the pieces work. Actuall, Smith is in a very comfortable position on this team. He can get away with bad shots since the Knicks are winning. But playing for the Bobcats or Hornets, you surely wouldn't like him as much.

Basically, to me J.R. Smith is not much more than a glorified Ricky Davis...
lol 5.5 for smith and 5.2 3s per game for parsons. thats a real big difference.

if they were on the knicks and put int the situation as the second sometimes first option on the knicks with the defense focusing on them every game. They would not put up there same stats on the percentages there doing now. It would be much lower. Especially since he is assisted on more that half his shots. He would fail terribly in j.r. Smith position.

And I was referring more to j,r, recent stretch were his FTA per game have jumped and he is constantly attacking the rim getting him EC player of the week

And if you watch one knick game you would know our offense is iso melo and iso j.r. And make it rain from three. And I'm sure smith is comfortable being option 1B behind melo. But that's not good for the team. But he is capable of doing for short burst not an entire season like he has been asked. J.r. Has to do alot more for his team then parsons does.

And I would defend him cause your trying to say a guy Whois really just a spot shooter and a defender is better then j.r. Smith.

Oh and j,r, has a higher PER. Don't really like PER but I just want to throw that in there
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And you're worst than a politician. Answer my original question. Did the Miami Heat use scouts to determine Lerbron's worth before offering the near max contract to him?

Also, you're comparing apple to oranges when you're talking about college PROSPECTS moving up to the NBA level, and you're just trying to introduce something new to "prove" your point. We were discussing the NBA...NOT college athletes, but since you want to act like Mr. Know-It-All, lets go ahead and explore that.

First off and what I stated NUMEROUS times already, stats are not the be all end all to everything. Next, NBA stats are the END results of some sort of production, and can be used to a degree to measure basketball IQ. If you have PG A who's averaging 5 TOPG and 1 APG vs PG B who's averaging 5 TOPG and 11 APG, PG A better have some other talents to bring to the table before a coach lets him run the offense.

Scouts are used for college prospects, because COLLEGE stats are not an indication of how SUCCESSFUL a player can be in the NBA. Why? It's a DIFFERENT type of game, pace, mentality, and competition when compared to the college level. Also, contract conversations doesn't matter, because contracts are based on the position of where the player was drafted at. When a player is a rookie, his agent doesn't have any leverage to "negotiate" his contract. However, when a player's ROOKIE contract is over what do you think they're going to use to determine the amount of his next contract?

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I don't think you read my post because all I said was that Spurs and Thunder have the best Scouts in the NBA.... and Danny Green played with the Cavs for a year and Spurs signed him or traded for him. I honestly can't remember... but if the Spurs looked at Danny Green's Rookie Stats they would have NEVER signed him or even gave him a chance ,but they found potential in him and helped him develop into the player he is today
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I'll give Smith credit for his offense. The man has been a beast, since the ASW. The only bad games he had was against Golden State and Indiana (Guess who was guarding him ). Where 2K Sports is messing up is on his defensive ratings.
Wanna see how George handles 2 of the hottest players in the league. With the the pressure of losing ground In the race for the second seed. Gunna have his hands full
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lol 5.5 for smith and 5.2 3s per game for parsons. thats a real big difference.

if they were on the knicks and put int the situation as the second sometimes first option on the knicks with the defense focusing on them every game. They would not put up there same stats on the percentages there doing now. It would be much lower. Especially since he is assisted on more that half his shots. He would fail terribly in j.r. Smith position.

And I was referring more to j,r, recent stretch were his FTA per game have jumped and he is constantly attacking the rim getting him EC player of the week

And if you watch one knick game you would know our offense is iso melo and iso j.r. And make it rain from three. And I'm sure smith is comfortable being option 1B behind melo. But that's not good for the team. But he is capable of doing for short burst not an entire season like he has been asked. J.r. Has to do alot more for his team then parsons does.

And I would defend him cause your trying to say a guy Whois really just a spot shooter and a defender is better then j.r. Smith.

Oh and j,r, has a higher PER. Don't really like PER but I just want to throw that in there

THANK YOU!!!! finally somebody with some sense!!
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And I would defend him cause your trying to say a guy Whois really just a spot shooter and a defender is better then j.r. Smith.
Do you even realize that my original question was simply if there's any good reason to believe that J.R. Smith is a more consistent player than Chandler Parsons and John Wall which is 2ks opinion? I never said that he's a bad player, nor that Parsons is objectively better. But do you really think that Smith is consistent? That was all, before you came in to defend your favorite team and the players you have to like in order to identify with their successes...

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I don't think you read my post because all I said was that Spurs and Thunder have the best Scouts in the NBA.... and Danny Green played with the Cavs for a year and Spurs signed him or traded for him. I honestly can't remember... but if the Spurs looked at Danny Green's Rookie Stats they would have NEVER signed him or even gave him a chance ,but they found potential in him and helped him develop into the player he is today
Bad example...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Green_(basketball)

He still had to play his way into the contract that he currently has. The Spurs gave him a second chance, and he played his way into a 3-year contract. Also, when teams talk about scouts, it's normally when people are getting information about college players that they're planning on drafting. Plus, the only time that I ever hear the comment "the best scouts in the NBA" is when they discuss how well the Spurs have drafted.

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Wanna see how George handles 2 of the hottest players in the league. With the the pressure of losing ground In the race for the second seed. Gunna have his hands full
We'll see. As the season winds down, I got a feeling that it's going to come down to who each team want to see in the first round of the playoffs. Boston is just one of those team that you can never be too certain about come playoff time. I'm not trying to de-rail the thread or anything.
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I just want to point out that 2K's consistency rating is defined as the ability to maintain a hot streak or easily get out of a shooting slump. Their definition has nothing to do with what people think of as being consistent IRL, but that doesn't matter here.

Is J.R. Smith the kind of player who maintains an even level of performance from game-to-game and season-to-season? Absolutely not.

Is J.R. Smith the kind of player who forgets about the last shot immediately and can get ridiculously hot or shoot himself out of a slump easily? Certainly.

J.R. isn't consistent by any common practical definition, but in 2K's world of esoteric and occasionally absurd vocabulary, where potential means actual and consistency means irrational confidence, he might deserve the highest rating in the game.
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