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Old 01-02-2013, 03:50 PM   #11
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Re: The "I Think this Player Deserves this Sig Skill" Thread

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Portland Changes needed!

Batum "Lockdown defender"


Attribute changes:

Nicolas Batum (79-80 OVR):

Play style "Point Forward"

Shot 3pt from 85 to 83

Pass from 44 to 74

On-ball defense from 82 to 85

"Play pass lane" tendency from 69 to 81


Meyers Leonard(59-63 OVR):

Free throw from 73 to 88

Offensive rebound from 68 to 73

Defensive rebound from 64 to 68

Offensive awareness from 38 to 61

Commit foul tendency from 58 to 70

Contest shot tendency from 62 to 71
We're calling Batum a lockdown defender now? Really? Also, since when is he a point forward. Evan Turner and Lebron get to say they are because they are well known for seeing the entire field and passing it to their teammates. Batum is well... not.

Leonard might deserve an increase, but there is no way those changes keep him at 63 overall. They would almost certainly make him better than Drummond, and he is far short of that. Leonard is a raw center with minimal offensive game. Stop treating him like he is an above average role player.

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Old 01-02-2013, 03:59 PM   #12
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We're calling Batum a lockdown defender now? Really? Also, since when is he a point forward. Evan Turner and Lebron get to say they are because they are well known for seeing the entire field and passing it to their teammates. Batum is well... not.

Leonard might deserve an increase, but there is no way those changes keep him at 63 overall. They would almost certainly make him better than Drummond, and he is far short of that. Leonard is a raw center with minimal offensive game. Stop treating him like he is an above average role player.
1st: Batum is routinely matched up against the other teams best player (usually point guard) and does an excellent job defending the 1-4.

2nd: Batum is 2nd in the NBA in assists for forwards (only behind LeBron) and as of the past three weeks taken the ball at the top of the key and initiated the offense.

3rd: I assure those changes equate to Leonard being a 63 OVR because I made them myself before I even posted the overall change. Am I saying Leonard is AMAZING? No... but these changes do reflect that the man has shown the ability to play in this league (something his current ratings do not do).




Anything else you'd care to not do research on and cry about?
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:19 PM   #13
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Hello people, I'm sorry if a similar thread has been made, if there has, may I request the moderators to merge it with a current one. Since I have tried looking for one all to no avail, I guess it was time for me to make one.

So basically, the title is pretty much clear. Here are some examples:

Gordon Hayward - Chasedown Artist.
Evan Turner - Interceptor and at the rate he's going, Corner specialist too.
Jrue Holiday - Dimer
Kevin Durant - Heat retention but what should be replaced?

I'll post more soon and hope you guys could suggest too.
I was going to start a thread about a couple players, but this seems like a better idea.

Holiday already has dimer. Got it a couple weeks ago.

I guess you could give Evan Turner corner specialist if you knock down his 3 point rating. Looking back that's probably how they should have done it. He has to get the Scrapper sig though. I think this is a must. Statistically, he is one of the best, if not the best, rebounding guards of all-time!!! They also need to give him the ability to push the ball after a rebound (I forget what its called). He almost always pushes the ball after a rebound, not to mention he plays the point sometimes.

Even though I haven't seen it work, I would give Thaddeus Young the Charge Card sig skill.

I feel like Lavoy Allen needs Bruiser to give him some sort of presence on the defensive end.

If I had to take something away, I think Nick Young has corner specialist. Haven't seen him hit too many corner 3s this season.
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:01 PM   #14
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1st: Batum is routinely matched up against the other teams best player (usually point guard) and does an excellent job defending the 1-4.

2nd: Batum is 2nd in the NBA in assists for forwards (only behind LeBron) and as of the past three weeks taken the ball at the top of the key and initiated the offense.

3rd: I assure those changes equate to Leonard being a 63 OVR because I made them myself before I even posted the overall change. Am I saying Leonard is AMAZING? No... but these changes do reflect that the man has shown the ability to play in this league (something his current ratings do not do).




Anything else you'd care to not do research on and cry about?
1. I can say anyone is a good defender. Just because someone defends a position doesn't mean they defend it well. Regardless, I agree he is a good defender, not a lockdown defender.

2. Stats by themselves do not reflect anything, particularly when a player averages 4.4 assists to 2.7 turnovers. That is a player who should be recognized as a player capable of running an offense?

3. I will admit I was wrong. 63 overall is reasonable for Leonard. I just assumed offensive awareness jacked up overall. It certainly does for point guards.

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Gordon Hayward - Chasedown Artist
Derrick Favors - Eraser

Also, I'd like an increase in Hayward's speed, quickness, on-ball defense, and finishing ability. Maybe knock his 3 point shot down a few numbers, as he's a bit of a streaky shooter. He has to have Chasedown Artist though for sure. The dude gets as much, if not more, chasedown blocks than the precious LeBron James...

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1. I can say anyone is a good defender. Just because someone defends a position doesn't mean they defend it well. Regardless, I agree he is a good defender, not a lockdown defender.

2. Stats by themselves do not reflect anything, particularly when a player averages 4.4 assists to 2.7 turnovers. That is a player who should be recognized as a player capable of running an offense?

3. I will admit I was wrong. 63 overall is reasonable for Leonard. I just assumed offensive awareness jacked up overall. It certainly does for point guards.
1. Batum has given Rose/CP3/Dirk/LeBron fits

2. Am I saying he's a PG? No. His current 44 pass rating is severely underrated. He's been magnificent with his distribution since a few weeks back. He does initiate the offense a great deal. He's starting to pass... a lot and the CPU won't play that way unless he's given the "Point Forward" notion. Heck if I wanted to give him the correct play style it'd be "all around" however he wouldn't distribute with how it's coded now.

3. I don't deal in overalls. I want my Blazers to play as they do in real life at the moment.

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1. Batum has given Rose/CP3/Dirk/LeBron fits

2. Am I saying he's a PG? No. His current 44 pass rating is severely underrated. He's been magnificent with his distribution since a few weeks back. He does initiate the offense a great deal. He's starting to pass... a lot and the CPU won't play that way unless he's given the "Point Forward" notion. Heck if I wanted to give him the correct play style it'd be "all around" however he wouldn't distribute with how it's coded now.

3. I don't deal in overalls. I want my Blazers to play as they do in real life at the moment.
1. Batum is an overrated defender because of his steals and blocks numbers. With Batum on the court, the Trailblazers allow 109.1 points per 100 possessions. With him off the court, the Trailblazers allow 103.9 points per 100 possessions. They allow 5.2 points points less when Batum is off the court. Does that really strike you as a player capable of locking down the opponents's top scoring option.

2. His turnovers come from bad passes, not handling the ball. 43 of them were bad passes, while only 21 were ball handling, roughly a 2:1 ratio, while the average point guard has roughly a 3:2 ratio, which shows that Batum does not pass the ball at a great clip because more of his passes are off their mark.

3. Overall should factor into your decision making process because it is crucial for Association mode, which I can only assume you do if you use edited rosters.
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1. Batum is an overrated defender because of his steals and blocks numbers. With Batum on the court, the Trailblazers allow 109.1 points per 100 possessions. With him off the court, the Trailblazers allow 103.9 points per 100 possessions. They allow 5.2 points points less when Batum is off the court. Does that really strike you as a player capable of locking down the opponents's top scoring option.

2. His turnovers come from bad passes, not handling the ball. 43 of them were bad passes, while only 21 were ball handling, roughly a 2:1 ratio, while the average point guard has roughly a 3:2 ratio, which shows that Batum does not pass the ball at a great clip because more of his passes are off their mark.

3. Overall should factor into your decision making process because it is crucial for Association mode, which I can only assume you do if you use edited rosters.
1. So one player guards five? Lol one of the worst uses of statistics I've ever seen. Overrated? Ha! That's why Stott's and McMillan both trusted him to defend the opposing teams top scorer? But hey armchair OS user, you know more than they do.

2. Where's your source? 2:1 3:2 not much of a difference simply just the volume of pass attempts? Batum is yet again at it tonight even pulling "Rubios".

3. No, not really. A player playing as they play in real life is MUCH more important than a players cumulative overall rating.

Also Batum is the ONLY player in the entire NBA in the top 40 of steals/assists/blocks/rebounds/points categories! Speaks to how well rounded he truly is.
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