cpu swing frequency

[dowie]

This goes to all the people who are serious about this game, and have had input into making my slider version,or are very happy with there set i.e. Carew.
I have had my swing freq at -28, but I've noticed that even though it is great for high pitch counts it really hinders the cpu's tendency to hit the ball. I get at least 4 if not more strike 3's called looking. That's too much. The cpu routinely will take fastballs down the middle in a hitters count...I don't get it. I have gone as low as -10, but then the cpu will swing at too much out of the strike zone. I need a realistic happy medium, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

[pberardi]

Quote: Originally Posted by dowie

This goes to all the people who are serious about this game, and have had input into making my slider version,or are very happy with there set i.e. Carew. I have had my swing freq at -28, but I've noticed that even though it is great for high pitch counts it really hinders the cpu's tendency to hit the ball. I get at least 4 if not more strike 3's called looking. That's too much. The cpu routinely will take fastballs down the middle in a hitters count...I don't get it. I have gone as low as -10, but then the cpu will swing at too much out of the strike zone. I need a realistic happy medium, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

-18 to -24. The -28 is good but the cpu looks at too many 2 strike counts. It does show more patience and does force you to throw more pitches. At -18 it is more aggressive but wil swing at more balls out of the zone. This part of the game is one of those can't win scenerios. I love those 1,2,3 innings.

[dowie]

Cool I'll start at -18 and work my way up to -24 to see which works the best. I dont want the cpu to swing at all throw away pitches thus high k totals, but a-rod taking a 3-1 count fastball down the middle is bogus as well. So -28 just isn't realistic.Dowie

[nemesis04]

I currently have the slider set at -21 and it seems to be pretty consistant. It is hard to find the exact number for perfect results.

[Rod_Carew29]

I've had mine set on '0' for my MVP level. What we cannot forget is that the CPU Swing Frequency is DIRECTLY related to each players' Batter Tendencies.

For example, let's use Jeff Francoeur. We all know he hardly walks (think he'll have 35 BB's by season's end)? And we know that if there's a fastball anywhere's relatively close to the plate, he's swinging. So......this is how I have his batter tendencies set up for Fastball, Curveball and Slider.

Fastball:

Take: 20/20
Miss: 0/20
Chase: 50/55

Curveball:

Take: 60/60
Miss: 10/20
Chase: 60/80

Slider:


Take: 55/60
Miss: 30/60
Chase: 75/85

*** keep in mind with Batter Tendencies, the numbers are to reflect basically how a player does with the types of pitches thrown to him by lefties and righties. The higher the TAKE number, the more he will lay off the pitch. The higher the MISS number, the more he will miss a particular pitch. The higher the CHASE number, the more apt he is to chase a particular pitch out of the strike zone.

I'm totally happy with how his simmed numbers worked out for 590 AB's so far:

139 games
590 AB's
.268 average
16 home runs
43 RBI's22 doubles
6 triples
99 strikeouts
and..........
only 20 BB's

Whenever my Nats faced the Braves, I'd throw sliders and changeups away to Francoeur...and if I got two quick strikes, I'd throw a fastball high, in and out of the strike zone. And there were AB's when he would take a wild swing to strikeout.

I once had two strikes on him and tried a curveball...up and tight on the inside corner....he parked it over the fence...lmaoooooo

Quote: Originally Posted by dowie

This goes to all the people who are serious about this game, and have had input into making my slider version,or are very happy with there set i.e. Carew. I have had my swing freq at -28, but I've noticed that even though it is great for high pitch counts it really hinders the cpu's tendency to hit the ball. I get at least 4 if not more strike 3's called looking. That's too much. The cpu routinely will take fastballs down the middle in a hitters count...I don't get it. I have gone as low as -10, but then the cpu will swing at too much out of the strike zone. I need a realistic happy medium, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

[dowie]

Carew, I agree with your theory, and I'll keep testing with it at zero. I love your hitting sliders on mvp, and if you are willing then take my (Dowie version 5.0) sliders and input them into the mvp level, but use your hitting sliders (mvp level), as well as your pitch control's and stamina sliders and I think you'll find that it plays a great game. Not that yours doesn't, but I think these might work a little better. It's all preference of course, and personal opinion, but I would love your expert opinion on them, cool? Dowie
Besides, what do you have to lose...except 45 minutes to a hour of course! I'll anticipate your feedback.

[draven085]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rod_Carew29

I've had mine set on '0' for my MVP level. What we cannot forget is that the CPU Swing Frequency is DIRECTLY related to each players' Batter Tendencies.

I've been playing on MVP for some time and have my sliders as close to perfect as I can reasonably expect to, with the exception of CPU swing frequency and the way the CPU acts at the plate. On MVP level I've noticed that the CPU is far, far more aggressive in swinging at pitches in the strike zone. This was leading to me having games where my pitchers only through 70-75 pitches for the entire game and that just won't do. To compensate I cranked the CPU swing frequency down to -50. That solved the problem of the CPU swinging at every single strike I throw but it also meant that the CPU rarely chased anything out of the strike zone, making it hard to pick up strikeouts consistently. With your swing frequency at 0 are you seeing the CPU being overly aggressive on pitches in the strike zone? I suppose knowing that they will chase pitches out of the zone is a good way to encourage yourself to work out of the strike zone more as well. That's certainly a good thing as I still issue roughly one walk per game on average.

If I could find a decent happy medium with swing frequency where the CPU takes more strikes but is more aggressive out of the strike zone I'd finally feel comfortable starting my dynasty. Any thoughts? I'm actually pondering going back to All-Star and touching up a few of my sliders a bit but honestly I think the CPU pitches a much, much better game on MVP and it makes the game significantly harder and more realistic. I'll try some game with CPU swing frequency at zero and also a few games back on All-Star and see which I like better but if anyone has a fix for me I'd be much obliged.

[dowie]

Can you please list your sliders for me on mvp level. Dowie

[pberardi]

My feeling is the SF slider and cpu contact go together. I've been playing with -15 SF and find the CPU alarmingly hitting similar to me. That is, it will take strikes that you hit spot on with the meter, it will swing at strikes that you miss your meter but still make bad contact if you're close to the corners, it will foul off lots of pitches if you have contact higher than user, it will swing at pitches out of the zone if you consistantly mix pitches, change speeds and are ahead in the count. It will punish you if you continue to throw at the same corners with the same pitches.

At zero, the cpu seems to do more 1st ball hitting but if you pitch well, I don't see a significant difference than slowing the frequency down with negative numbers. I'm giving up 2-4 runs and 8-12 hits per game. This is against teams like the A's, Twins...I haven't played NYY and BOS yet! Contact is at 40 for CPU. I may either lower SF or contact to get more 1,2, 3 innings as the game can take close to an hour now that I've found a way to get the cpu to hit!

Go figure, I complain the cpu can't hit and now that it does, I'm trying to slow it down.

[Rod_Carew29]

Well, my thoughts are...I'm not having any issues with my settings. Case in point. Last night, in my next-to-last game against the Phillies at RFK Stadium, in Jimmy Rollins' first at-bat, my Nationals starter, Shawn Hill, struck him out on 5 pitches (2 strikes on the inside corner, two waste pitches, and a called strike three on a changeup on the outside corner). And for that whole at-bat, Rollins did not swing once.

In his next at-bat, I threw a first pitch fastball again on the inside corner. This time he swung and fouled it off. He swung on at least one other pitch, and ultimately struck out in that at-bat...and 4 times in the game altogether.

As has been discussed on this board before, the randomness of the goings-ons in this game is absoultely unparalleled.

Quote: Originally Posted by draven085

I've been playing on MVP for some time and have my sliders as close to perfect as I can reasonably expect to, with the exception of CPU swing frequency and the way the CPU acts at the plate. On MVP level I've noticed that the CPU is far, far more aggressive in swinging at pitches in the strike zone. This was leading to me having games where my pitchers only through 70-75 pitches for the entire game and that just won't do. To compensate I cranked the CPU swing frequency down to -50. That solved the problem of the CPU swinging at every single strike I throw but it also meant that the CPU rarely chased anything out of the strike zone, making it hard to pick up strikeouts consistently. With your swing frequency at 0 are you seeing the CPU being overly aggressive on pitches in the strike zone? I suppose knowing that they will chase pitches out of the zone is a good way to encourage yourself to work out of the strike zone more as well. That's certainly a good thing as I still issue roughly one walk per game on average. If I could find a decent happy medium with swing frequency where the CPU takes more strikes but is more aggressive out of the strike zone I'd finally feel comfortable starting my dynasty. Any thoughts? I'm actually pondering going back to All-Star and touching up a few of my sliders a bit but honestly I think the CPU pitches a much, much better game on MVP and it makes the game significantly harder and more realistic. I'll try some game with CPU swing frequency at zero and also a few games back on All-Star and see which I like better but if anyone has a fix for me I'd be much obliged.