Strikeforce: Barnett vs. Cormier, Melendez vs. Thomson III - May 19th

[ex carrabba fan]

I don't know, Cain beating an opponent Cormier already made look silly wouldn't warrant a shot to me regardless of his injury during the JDS fight. Plus I'm really not a fan of giving these guys almost rematches right away. Let Cain fight a guy after Bigfoot to earn his way back.

Werdum has a case, but I do like Cormier's better simply due to the fact that Werdum has that recent loss to Reem. A victory over Nelson and Russow is just OK. His wins in SF should not be overlooked but the recent loss sort of dulls his wins before Reem.

If you wanna do a Werdum/Cormier eliminator I'm all for that

[aholbert32]

I just think you should need more than wins over Barnett and Silva. 3 fights ago, Cormier was fighting on Strikeforce Challengers card. He wins two fights and now he's one away from a UFC title shot? I would be ok with a title eliminator v. Cain but we all know he wont fight Cain because they are in the same camp.

This discussion doesnt matter anyway. Cormier owes one more fight to SF and Showtime is going to hold him to it. Rumor has it that the UFC is going to send Shane Carwin to SF for one fight against Cormier.

[jeremym480]

Give Jon Jones the next HW title shot against the winner of JDS/Mir. Then let Wedrum & Cormier battle it out for the next number 1 contender. Throw Overeem in a #1 contenders fight when he comes back in December. He can wait for his title shot since he made us wait.

/wishful thinking.

In all seriousness though, I wouldn't be surprised to see Cain get a rematch if he beats Big Foot. After seeing Machida get a title shot after only winning one of three fights, nothing would surprise me. The way that Corimer has completely dominated his competition makes me lean towards him, but I don't see it happening just yet.

[ex carrabba fan]

Dana says some truly puzzling things sometimes.

The latest is him saying Cormier might be too small for HW in the UFC

I really don't get it Dana. Besides the fact that Cormier just dismantled two of the bigger and better HW's in the world, his training partner, Cain, is virtually the same damn size.

The only good news about Cormier is that Dana has said Cormier will get an immediate title shot when he enters the UFC. Bad news is that Cormier broke his hand (again) and that he has one more fight in Strikeforce.

Hopefully Cain doesn't beat Dos Santos or else things could get pretty weird when Cormier is ready to fight for the title in the UFC.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by ex carrabba fan

Dana says some truly puzzling things sometimes. The latest is him saying Cormier might be too small for HW in the UFC I really don't get it Dana. Besides the fact that Cormier just dismantled two of the bigger and better HW's in the world, his training partner, Cain, is virtually the same damn size. The only good news about Cormier is that Dana has said Cormier will get an immediate title shot when he enters the UFC. Bad news is that Cormier broke his hand (again) and that he has one more fight in Strikeforce. Hopefully Cain doesn't beat Dos Santos or else things could get pretty weird when Cormier is ready to fight for the title in the UFC.

I've always thought that about Cormier. He's two inches shorter than Cain and he's doughy as hell. He could dominate at 205.

Also Cain wins....they arent fighting. They both said as much. So Cormier will be forced to go to 205 anyway.

[ex carrabba fan]

His kidney disease is a problem and could prevent him from cutting weight...

That's what I mean, Cormier has said he'd never fight Cain... which would then force his hand to move down. With his ailment, I don't know how easy it would be for him to simply move down in weight and hopefully wouldn't affect his performance in that weight class.

Regardless glad Dana said he'll get a shot. He deserves it.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by ex carrabba fan

His kidney disease is a problem and could prevent him from cutting weight... That's what I mean, Cormier has said he'd never fight Cain... which would then force his hand to move down. With his ailment, I don't know how easy it would be for him to simply move down in weight and hopefully wouldn't affect his performance in that weight class. Regardless glad Dana said he'll get a shot. He deserves it.

I didnt know about his disease. Well then he needs to fight Cain. Cormier/Cain cant turn into another Fitch/Kos situation.

[redsrule]

I thought he got the kidney problems from trying to cut weight for the Olympics. Maybe he could cut to LHW with a lot of preparation and work, but who knows. If he can't though, there is no way they should refuse to fight each other, especially in a division as shallow as heavyweight is.

[Sandman42]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I didnt know about his disease. Well then he needs to fight Cain. Cormier/Cain cant turn into another Fitch/Kos situation.

Quote: Originally Posted by redsrule

I thought he got the kidney problems from trying to cut weight for the Olympics. Maybe he could cut to LHW with a lot of preparation and work, but who knows. If he can't though, there is no way they should refuse to fight each other, especially in a division as shallow as heavyweight is.

His kidneys shut down on him when he tried to get to 211 in the Olympics. If he couldn't make 211 for the Olympics, which has just as much, if not more, prep time I doubt he would make it for an MMA fight.

He also doesn't need to move down. He already took down one of the biggest HW's in Silva, and the top of the division isn't exactly these huge guys fighting at 280 lbs. an it never was. The best fighters have heavyweight have always been the smaller guys. Fedor, Nogueria, Couture, Velasquez, Dos Santos, Mir (pre Lesnar fights).

The other problem with him moving down is that 205 is a tougher division. Cormier is already a top 5 heavyweight, but the more skilled guys at 205 would give him more trouble than most HW's aside the top 3.