OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

[Troopershorty51]

This is awesome and I'd love to help out but since I do fantasy draft franchises almost exclusively I would not be much help haha...

Maybe I'll start one with my O's and can be their rep

[ktd1976]

Ok, just throwing my 2 cents in, please don't lynch me.

I think this thread/idea is an AWESOME idea, in theory, however, there has to be a way to take out the "home team bias" that, undoubtedly (likely unintentional) the "GM's" representing their teams, will show.

I'll use the team I use, the Detroit Tigers, as an example. As a Tiger's fan, I feel that I know this team better than most (not all). I try to look at things realistically when I make a trade, and think "what would Dave Dombrowski do" Take the Curtis Granderson trade for instance. Many many fans thought the Tigers would NEVER trade Granderson. I was in the minority, of people who thought this trade was a GREAT trade for the Tigers. They got a great center fielder in return, along with a good lefty reliever, and a pretty good arm in Max Scherzer, all for a guy who, while a good player, couldn't hit lefthanders to save his life (at that time at least). However, most Tiger fans thought this was a HORRIBLE deal for Detroit, hence showing their "homer bias"

I frequent a Detroit Tiger's messageboard, and constantly I see ridiculous trade proposals on there, ones that if a real GM proposed them, he would be laughed at all the way out of town. For instance, I saw a "lets get King Felix from the Mariners for Raburn, Smyly, and Boesch." Now, I admit Smyly is an intriguing prospect, but Boesch is borderline, and Raburn couldn't even fetch a bag of used baseballs in a trade right now.

Basically, in short, I think it is a good idea, but the "homer bias" will kill it

[Helios12787]

Yea I think we'll def need to "monitor" all of the GMs and have some form of "removal" if we see someone just totally being a homer. Maybe a league wide vote to drop a GM lol.

We definitely wouldn't need someone saying "But he's my favorite player evar I'll never trade him!!" to all trade proposals for their team.

I think most people will have enough sense to be logical, but there will always be that ONE guy

[pimpinpidgeon8]

I like the idea of voting out GM's if they're not doing their job correctly.


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[NYYankees42]

I would love to represent my hometown yankees. Im a diehard fan and know all about our farm system. I wont be biased either. Cant wait to get some opinions for my astros franchise.

[xboxxerx]

Quote: Originally Posted by ktd1976

Ok, just throwing my 2 cents in, please don't lynch me. I think this thread/idea is an AWESOME idea, in theory, however, there has to be a way to take out the "home team bias" that, undoubtedly (likely unintentional) the "GM's" representing their teams, will show. I'll use the team I use, the Detroit Tigers, as an example. As a Tiger's fan, I feel that I know this team better than most (not all). I try to look at things realistically when I make a trade, and think "what would Dave Dombrowski do" Take the Curtis Granderson trade for instance. Many many fans thought the Tigers would NEVER trade Granderson. I was in the minority, of people who thought this trade was a GREAT trade for the Tigers. They got a great center fielder in return, along with a good lefty reliever, and a pretty good arm in Max Scherzer, all for a guy who, while a good player, couldn't hit lefthanders to save his life (at that time at least). However, most Tiger fans thought this was a HORRIBLE deal for Detroit, hence showing their "homer bias" I frequent a Detroit Tiger's messageboard, and constantly I see ridiculous trade proposals on there, ones that if a real GM proposed them, he would be laughed at all the way out of town. For instance, I saw a "lets get King Felix from the Mariners for Raburn, Smyly, and Boesch." Now, I admit Smyly is an intriguing prospect, but Boesch is borderline, and Raburn couldn't even fetch a bag of used baseballs in a trade right now. Basically, in short, I think it is a good idea, but the "homer bias" will kill it

My .2¢. Why not once the GM's of said teams agree on said trade, have a approval vote. Then we wouldn't need to worry about "homers". When teams do trades in MLB they need Seligs vote. Would be similar.

Can come up with a template for info of players involved to help along those GM's that aren't so knowledgeable of other farm systems/teams.

Btw. I will help rep the Angels

[pokerplaya]

I will update the post of "representatives" in a few, gents... I just got home after working a double...

I must say though, adding another layer (voting for approval on trades) seems kind of pointless, as people still have the ultimate choice WITH THEIR OWN GAME to do what they want to do. Also, seeing as how these will be posted publically, the backlash would be apparent if a guy was deliberately not acting in the interests of his squad -- or if he couldn't come up with anything to say as to why he would possibly accept a deal or something along those lines.

It's supposed to be informative, sure -- and useful, indeed. But, its also supposed to be fun and I think people are worrying a little bit too much, when I'm sure that most people that want to be involved in something like this are doing it for an extra layer of REALISM.

Just my two cents, again... but remember. It's supposed to be FUN.

[jknott10]

I can't wait for this thread to get rolling. Will deffiantly be interesting. I'm a huge Braves fan, but fill like I'm behind other big fans and not really into it all of it like for instance the minor league. Outside from Teheran, simmons and Delgado (not in minors no more) and a couple more I don't know much about the fa em system. Feel like a bad fan. With that said, would not rep the braves. But can't wait for this to get rolling

[pokerplaya]

Representatives updated to here. Thanks to those just getting involved in the project and welcome.

[Bobhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by jknott10

I can't wait for this thread to get rolling. Will deffiantly be interesting. I'm a huge Braves fan, but fill like I'm behind other big fans and not really into it all of it like for instance the minor league. Outside from Teheran, simmons and Delgado (not in minors no more) and a couple more I don't know much about the fa em system. Feel like a bad fan. With that said, would not rep the braves. But can't wait for this to get rolling

Don't feel bad, the only reason I can name ANY minor leaguers, is because of OSFM's rosters and the minor leaguers existing in my franchise mode, in MLB: The Show. For example, I only knew Desmond Jennings existed, because I called him up in my own franchise last year. I'm probably the most clueless fan there is when it comes to this stuff.