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1Rose · 11-02-2011, 01:32 PM

See the old thread got deleted. Figured it's not too early to discuss 2012 and beyond!

The Theo Epstein Era has officially begun.

Aramis Ramirez tenure as the leader of the Cubs offense has officially ended as he will pursue free agency.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story...nlikely-return

Sad to see him go, but it's $16 Million off the books.

Happy29 · 11-02-2011, 01:40 PM

Mike Quade has been fired

1Rose · 11-02-2011, 04:00 PM

Now that quade is out who do you guys think/want to replace him?

When all these rumors started swirling at the beginning of the playoffs, I would have said Francona, but after learning about his health issues, I don't think that is likely.

For some reason I see it being Sandberg, just because Epstein likes him and wanted to hire him in Boston to one of the minor league clubs.

Who would I want? Ideally Joe Maddon because he seems to be the best in the game right now at getting a lot out of a little, but also he's a great player manager and can handle egos and diffuse situations.

fugazi · 11-03-2011, 03:17 PM

wtf why not Ryno?

I mean, why the eff not?

What's the worst that could happen? The cubs lose some more?

Epstein is looking for someone with "major league experience."

Why? Really, why? Is Sandberg's knowledge of baseball really that much less than someone with "major league" experience?

And we aren't talking about MANAGERIAL experience, either...Epstein is considering bench coaches like TB's Martinez.

....this team....sometimes....i smfh.

1Rose · 11-03-2011, 10:32 PM

Yeah, when I heard that I was really confused.

I mean the guy has shown that he wins every level he was at. Why not take a chance? This team, barring some drastic moves has NO chance of winning the NL Central next year.

It's almost like a slap in the face, like hey you're a Cubs legend and you're a winner but we don't want that here.

On the other hand I can see where he is coming from. Managing in the majors is definitely different than managing in the minors. As we saw, Mike Quade, with years of minor league experience, got to the big leagues and was in way over his head. It's going to be interesting to see where they go from here. Although popular belief says Francona just because of their past working relationship, I just don't see it happening because of his health issues.

fugazi · 11-04-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Rose


	On the other hand I can see where he is coming from. Managing in the majors is definitely different than managing in the minors. As we saw, Mike Quade, with years of minor league experience, got to the big leagues and was in way over his head. It's going to be interesting to see where they go from here. Although popular belief says Francona just because of their past working relationship, I just don't see it happening because of his health issues.

I don't disagree...but somewhere...Bobby Cox got a shot...Torry got a shot...LaRussa got a shot...

I don't want a tired Francona who has managed himself into the ground. I am sure he is capable...I would prefer to see what Ryno could do over 2-4 years.

He has worked with some of the team's prospects, and must be doing something right given his (albeit brief) track record in the minors.

Best case: He is great.
Worst case: He is no worse than Quade or whomever else would get fired that did badly...

Everyone else brings the same possibility. Francona could stink with the Cubs...Martinez could blow it...

Why not take a shot at what would be the greatest baseball story EVVVVEEERRRRRR.....

1Rose · 11-15-2011, 11:57 PM

Looks like Woody will be back. It's only right.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story...con-kerry-wood

Happy29 · 11-16-2011, 03:25 PM

I'm hoping we end up with the MAddux/Maddux combo Mike coming on as the manager and Greg as the pitching coach. I believe we are one or two years out from competing on a regular basis, but exciting things are sure to be coming for Cubs fans.

Happy29 · 11-17-2011, 08:25 PM

Dale Sveum is the new Cubs manager, lets hope he does a good job.

1Rose · 11-18-2011, 01:18 AM

Not quite sure what I think of the hire. It's kind of lackluster but apparently with both the Red Sox and Cubs jocking for him, he must have had some redeeming qualities.

Had to have because you couldn't make the decision to move forward with the small sample size of games he managed. I know Theo wanted MLB experience but 10 games or so was enough??

Should have just went with Ryno in that case. Doesn't make sense.

11-02-2011, 01:40 PM	#2
Happy29 MVP OVR: 31 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 4,682 Blog Entries: 13	Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread Mike Quade has been fired yougo1000 likes this. __________________ Marriage teaches you forgiveness, compromise and tons of other things you wouldn’t need if you’d stayed single. I'm on Twitter

11-02-2011, 04:00 PM	#3
1Rose Banned OVR: 22 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando, from the Windy City. Posts: 2,565 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread Now that quade is out who do you guys think/want to replace him? When all these rumors started swirling at the beginning of the playoffs, I would have said Francona, but after learning about his health issues, I don't think that is likely. For some reason I see it being Sandberg, just because Epstein likes him and wanted to hire him in Boston to one of the minor league clubs. Who would I want? Ideally Joe Maddon because he seems to be the best in the game right now at getting a lot out of a little, but also he's a great player manager and can handle egos and diffuse situations.

11-03-2011, 03:17 PM	#4
fugazi MVP OVR: 15 Join Date: Apr 2003	Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread wtf why not Ryno? I mean, why the eff not? What's the worst that could happen? The cubs lose some more? Epstein is looking for someone with "major league experience." Why? Really, why? Is Sandberg's knowledge of baseball really that much less than someone with "major league" experience? And we aren't talking about MANAGERIAL experience, either...Epstein is considering bench coaches like TB's Martinez. ....this team....sometimes....i smfh. __________________ Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

11-03-2011, 10:32 PM	#5
1Rose Banned OVR: 22 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando, from the Windy City. Posts: 2,565 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread Yeah, when I heard that I was really confused. I mean the guy has shown that he wins every level he was at. Why not take a chance? This team, barring some drastic moves has NO chance of winning the NL Central next year. It's almost like a slap in the face, like hey you're a Cubs legend and you're a winner but we don't want that here. On the other hand I can see where he is coming from. Managing in the majors is definitely different than managing in the minors. As we saw, Mike Quade, with years of minor league experience, got to the big leagues and was in way over his head. It's going to be interesting to see where they go from here. Although popular belief says Francona just because of their past working relationship, I just don't see it happening because of his health issues.

11-15-2011, 11:57 PM	#7
1Rose Banned OVR: 22 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando, from the Windy City. Posts: 2,565 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread Looks like Woody will be back. It's only right. http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story...con-kerry-wood

11-16-2011, 03:25 PM	#8
Happy29 MVP OVR: 31 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 4,682 Blog Entries: 13	Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread I'm hoping we end up with the MAddux/Maddux combo Mike coming on as the manager and Greg as the pitching coach. I believe we are one or two years out from competing on a regular basis, but exciting things are sure to be coming for Cubs fans. __________________ Marriage teaches you forgiveness, compromise and tons of other things you wouldn’t need if you’d stayed single. I'm on Twitter

11-17-2011, 08:25 PM	#9
Happy29 MVP OVR: 31 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 4,682 Blog Entries: 13	Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread Dale Sveum is the new Cubs manager, lets hope he does a good job. __________________ Marriage teaches you forgiveness, compromise and tons of other things you wouldn’t need if you’d stayed single. I'm on Twitter

11-18-2011, 01:18 AM	#10
1Rose Banned OVR: 22 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando, from the Windy City. Posts: 2,565 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread Not quite sure what I think of the hire. It's kind of lackluster but apparently with both the Red Sox and Cubs jocking for him, he must have had some redeeming qualities. Had to have because you couldn't make the decision to move forward with the small sample size of games he managed. I know Theo wanted MLB experience but 10 games or so was enough?? Should have just went with Ryno in that case. Doesn't make sense.

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