** SPOILERS ** Madden 13 Draft Class Guide

[CFraychineaud]

First off, please keep it civil. I'm glad that people got the slow development joke, but I didn't mean for it to be used as an attack.

As for how we went into creating this guide, we thought much like many people did that the draft classes were going to be completely randomized making it hard to do a draft based on "Potential" like previous draft guides. So when rdm and I started playing the game and saving each draft we kept track of different things to see if anything became the same. After doing several offline and online CCM's we noticed that the draft classes were going in the same exact order, like a giant clock with 30 numbers on it, the starting point just changed when you first started your CCM. It doesn't change during the week between preseason week 4 and the 1st week of the regular season like several previous madden franchises had. The storyline plays also HAD to go in the order they were because sometimes a player would have a story about being the brother or cousin of a star NFL player, who had come out just the previous draft. That wouldn't work if the order was randomized. We figured out that really only the storyline players changed, yet so far haven't seen development change from just the two of us (even with differing story lines), but that doesn't mean for sure that it doesn't.

The current plan is to continue to add the rest of the draft classes into the guide, (we have them all saved, but just have to enter data which should happen shortly) and then to list possible storyline arcs for each player so that you know what CAN happen, and what it typically affects, and IF it affects development. For this info we need people to post information on it though because we are only two people and will only have access to a limited amount of the possible story lines. I figure that each of the players with multiple arcs probably have 3 stories. Injury or Lowering (does bad at something), Overachiever or Increasing (does well at something), and career change (position, stay in school, come out early, switch sports, etc.). Hopefully we will be able to track all of these for the players it affects.

Thanks again for all the support guys.

[touretteskid101]

Quote: Originally Posted by CFraychineaud

First off, please keep it civil. I'm glad that people got the slow development joke, but I didn't mean for it to be used as an attack. As for how we went into creating this guide, we thought much like many people did that the draft classes were going to be completely randomized making it hard to do a draft based on "Potential" like previous draft guides. So when rdm and I started playing the game and saving each draft we kept track of different things to see if anything became the same. After doing several offline and online CCM's we noticed that the draft classes were going in the same exact order, like a giant clock with 30 numbers on it, the starting point just changed when you first started your CCM. It doesn't change during the week between preseason week 4 and the 1st week of the regular season like several previous madden franchises had. The storyline plays also HAD to go in the order they were because sometimes a player would have a story about being the brother or cousin of a star NFL player, who had come out just the previous draft. That wouldn't work if the order was randomized. We figured out that really only the storyline players changed, yet so far haven't seen development change from just the two of us (even with differing story lines), but that doesn't mean for sure that it doesn't. The current plan is to continue to add the rest of the draft classes into the guide, (we have them all saved, but just have to enter data which should happen shortly) and then to list possible storyline arcs for each player so that you know what CAN happen, and what it typically affects, and IF it affects development. For this info we need people to post information on it though because we are only two people and will only have access to a limited amount of the possible story lines. I figure that each of the players with multiple arcs probably have 3 stories. Injury or Lowering (does bad at something), Overachiever or Increasing (does well at something), and career change (position, stay in school, come out early, switch sports, etc.). Hopefully we will be able to track all of these for the players it affects. Thanks again for all the support guys.

Thanks for the response. I like the way you guys set this up. I will contribute my 2 cents on this: In the Louis Glover (#6, QB, Georgia) Draft I have seen 2 different outcomes for him. In the one he went on to win the Heisman and is projected to be a Top 5 pick with a 1 (AVG) development trait. In the other outcome, he got injured for 4 weeks about halfway through the season and thus dropped out of the draft.

Also, if a player (in this case Louis Glover) drops out of the draft, will he appear in next years draft?

[Fr8Train]

Within minutes of voicing my disdain for the 900 Story lines, and only 30 draft classes... Looman tweeted me lol

Had a decent discussion, about Development Trait, lol

[CFraychineaud]

Quote: Originally Posted by touretteskid101

Thanks for the response. I like the way you guys set this up. I will contribute my 2 cents on this: In the Louis Glover (#6, QB, Georgia) Draft I have seen 2 different outcomes for him. In the one he went on to win the Heisman and is projected to be a Top 5 pick with a 1 (AVG) development trait. In the other outcome, he got injured for 4 weeks about halfway through the season and thus dropped out of the draft. Also, if a player (in this case Louis Glover) drops out of the draft, will he appear in next years draft?

So you didn't notice if Glover's Dev changed? *It hasn't for the different storyline players we've seen* If the player gets injured they don't appear in the scouting window, but often will appear IN the draft anyway, you just can't scout them after the injury (probably because they are injured, how are you going to work them out?). Which is clever although frustrating. If they return to school they appear in the next draft.

[CFraychineaud]

Quote: Originally Posted by Fr8Train

Within minutes of voicing my disdain for the 900 Story lines, and only 30 draft classes... Looman tweeted me lol Had a decent discussion, about Development Trait, lol

Dang-it Looman, where are my tweets? Even got you on my friends list...

Anything interesting Fr8Train about the Development Trait?

[majesty95]

I can't believe people are this lazy and this eager to cheat. I don't have an issues with the "authors" of this, but people who use this to get an advantage over the other players on their Online CCM of CPU in Offline are obviously not very good. Seriously? Scout your players ad take your lumps. It happens in real life. Is your life that devoid of accomplishment that you need all he tricks in the book to dominate a video game? Sad really.

[NYM72382]

Quote: Originally Posted by majesty95

I can't believe people are this lazy and this eager to cheat. I don't have an issues with the "authors" of this, but people who use this to get an advantage over the other players on their Online CCM of CPU in Offline are obviously not very good. Seriously? Scout your players ad take your lumps. It happens in real life. Is your life that devoid of accomplishment that you need all he tricks in the book to dominate a video game? Sad really.

Your a hypocrite! Same critisim you have for people who use this can be said about you for wasting your life posting on a message board talking down to people who want to use this...look in the mirror bro

A point to help. I had Kian Mckensie Draft class. In mine he got injured but came back at teh end of the year in a bowl game to throw 3 TDS. He still came out with 95 THP 80 acc dep 86 acc med and 77 acc short. The only down fall was he had an injury rating of 64! Still had the Star dev

I know in another class of his he was dominant did not get injured and won the national championship. His overal was 4 or 5 pts higher. So the injury hurt that rating. I believe there is at least a 3rd scenario where he doesn't come back fromt eh injury and heard he is average to below average but cannot confirm this

[ingey1968]

To answer the Jordan Parks question, There are three storylines for him. One is where he comes out as a junior. the other two have him coming out the following year as a senior. i believe thats also in the z. richmond and W. Myers draft. One storyline has him going through the season with the same ratings and such as his junior year but another has him getting hurt in the michigan/michigan st game and never being the same player.

If your first draft is the richmond draft, you have 29 seasons to go before Parks. lol

[Fr8Train]

Quote: Originally Posted by CFraychineaud

Dang-it Looman, where are my tweets? Even got you on my friends list... Anything interesting Fr8Train about the Development Trait?

Here is the exchange.





On a side note: I'm hate these guides, no offense to the creators, as I'm just as guilty of making ones (with progressed stats) the last couple years... but a guide kills the randomness of the draft. It also devalues late round players picks, because the elite players get picked earlier, with noone falling later in the draft...

[NYJFan81]

Quote: Originally Posted by ingey1968

To answer the Jordan Parks question, There are three storylines for him. One is where he comes out as a junior. the other two have him coming out the following year as a senior. i believe thats also in the z. richmond and W. Myers draft. One storyline has him going through the season with the same ratings and such as his junior year but another has him getting hurt in the michigan/michigan st game and never being the same player. If your first draft is the richmond draft, you have 29 seasons to go before Parks. lol

Really 29 drafts to go? I thought the guide states the next draft on the list is next draft in game? Not the opposite.