This is where to go to get legacy issues in Madden fixed guys

[EmmdotFrisk]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

That's because it's an ideas thread not a moan and groan thread. Just because people don't complain as much on there doesn't mean they find no fault in what EA has done.

Power comes with numbers. The more the hardcore community agrees on an idea for a feature set, the more likely it gets implemented into future titles.

[Big FN Deal]

I asked this back in the Infinity engine thread, since the EAGCs run this site or at least hopefully have some input on it, is there anyway to get these "votes" more categorized. I don't think voting for the priority of which legacy game play fix, should be lumped in with wishlists, presentation elements, etc.

If there could somehow be a separation of ideas, I think that would be far more organized, as well as make sure that EA/Tiburon understands there is a distinction. I cringe at the idea of seeing the current top 3-5 from that vote implemented in M14 and being used as some excuse for why far more fundamental issues got passed over again. Then have some say, "EA/Tiburon gave us want we asked for".

So to any EAGC or all of you, is there anyway to better categorize the idea vote into separate sections. Preferably something like Gameplay, Online, Presentation, CCM, User options and Misc wishlist but at least a separate section from the current idea vote for legacy issue fixes.

[DetroitStyle]

It's a lot easier for the devs to justify a game decision when it comes from an EA sanctioned site then if it came from a 3rd party website like OS. Also, it consolidates it down and like others have said it gets rid of the moan and groan, knee-jerk reactions from fans. I like it, it's a nice streamlined site to get your ideas out there and have them voted on.

I'll put it in my sig as well.

[Humdinger80]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

Hopefully they work to consolidate some of these. I've voted a lot over there and will continue to do so, but there are several suggestions about penalties that could be combined, for example. Same for editing, custom rosters, etc. Some of them would be much closer to the top if they weren't so scattered. And while I'm all for the voting, I would hope that the developers can see that the lack of weight to running is an issue without it needing to receive enough votes to beat out improved sidelines (currently in the top 5 in votes). Basically, I hope a little common sense is applied when it comes to evaluating the results from the site.

Wow. I thought the exact same thing when choosing what I was voting for. I actually voted "No" on sidelines haha C'mon lets take care of the trenches, footplanting/weight distribution and refine the Infinity Engine before we get to "dog piles"...btw bully for you JP to bring this to peoples attention. Awesome find!

[tazdevil20]

Unreal, so now we need to vote to get the actual football in a football game? The land of Tiburon must be an amazing place to live...

[DetroitStyle]

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

Unreal, so now we need to vote to get the actual football in a football game? The land of Tiburon must be an amazing place to live...

C'mon man, what are you looking at it like that for. It's not like the votes are set in stone. The voting is there to create attention and see what the fan base is passionate about without needing a bunch of cry baby threads. The votes help draw attention but I'm sure they look at every suggestion mentioned. If, for example, they see line play with 1000 votes and new Revo helmets with 100 they'll work on line play first and then try and tackle the Revos.

These are FAN created suggestions your voting on. EA has no hand in the cookie jar on that site. If you want to create a suggestion to be voted on, you can do it. EA doesn't create the suggestions and then ask you to vote on it. It's basically a fancy feedback site.

[tazdevil20]

Quote: Originally Posted by DetroitStyle

C'mon man, what are you looking at it like that for. It's not like the votes are set in stone. The voting is there to create attention and see what the fan base is passionate about without needing a bunch of cry baby threads. The votes help draw attention but I'm sure they look at every suggestion mentioned. If, for example, they see line play with 1000 votes and new Revo helmets with 100 they'll work on line play first and then try and tackle the Revos.

I'll tell you why I'm looking at it like that...

I can already see it coming. Next year we will get things like fantasy draft, more facemasks, correct socks, and other nonsense. Then they will be able to point back to the site and the ridiculous crap that gets pushed to the top as the justification for why they did what they did. I, along with countless other football heads, have been living through the nightmare of 8 years of excuses from Tiburon. 3 different creative directors, new teams, new technology and every other BS line you can think of. All this is ensuring is that now Tiburon has a well documented excuse to fall back on when they fail to fix all of the problems with the basics of the game. "You asked for it, we did it!". The majority of people who are providing that input probably haven't even played another football game other than Madden, and they already think of Madden as the greatest thing since sliced bread. To them, the things that need priority are more like the icing on the cake, while the rest of us get to suffer through another sub par issue of the same old magazine.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

[DetroitStyle]

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

I'll tell you why I'm looking at it like that... I can already see it coming. Next year we will get things like fantasy draft, more facemasks, correct socks, and other nonsense. Then they will be able to point back to the site and the ridiculous crap that gets pushed to the top as the justification for why they did what they did. I, along with countless other football heads, have been living through the nightmare of 8 years of excuses from Tiburon. 3 different creative directors, new teams, new technology and every other BS line you can think of. All this is ensuring is that now Tiburon has a well documented excuse to fall back on when they fail to fix all of the problems with the basics of the game. "You asked for it, we did it!". The majority of people who are providing that input probably haven't even played another football game other than Madden, and they already think of Madden as the greatest thing since sliced bread. To them, the things that need priority are more like the icing on the cake, while the rest of us get to suffer through another sub par issue of the same old magazine. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

Fair enough, you make some valid points. Hopefully some of those things will get pushed down in votes while we can get things like o-line play to the top of the list.

[moneal2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

Unreal, so now we need to vote to get the actual football in a football game? The land of Tiburon must be an amazing place to live...

at some point some of the people here need to get over themselves. really.

it is a football game not a football simulation. there are areas of all sports games that are no where near simulation. I can play The Show with a guy that strikes out all the time in real life and rarely strike out with him. is that simulation. yet that game gets all sorts of complements for being sim. its like that in every sports game.

If you want something in it then go vote for it. if you dont want to do that then dont complain that what you want isn't in. EA has to please more than just you and your idea of what the game should be. If you want your ideas embraced then you should post them and get others to vote. Its just like elections, don't complain when the guy you didn't want to win wins if you didn't vote.

I understand that you think that correct ol/dl and movement should be in and are important, so do i, but not everyone cares about those things. if you want those pushed to the front of the line, then as i said earlier post them and get others to vote. its not EA's job to make the most realistic football sim. its their job to sell the most copies of madden period. how they do that is up to the audience they have. and if their audience thinks that fantasy drafts are a huge issue then thats what they will do. if you can show them that the things you want are a huge issue to the audience then they will follow suit.

Madden sold 2.02m worldwide on the ps3 thats more than both nba2k12(1.88m) and the show(.72M). i used ps3 because thats the only console that the show is on. madden also outsold nba2k12(2.42m) on 360 as well with 2.53m. if things were as bad as most on here say then madden would be tanking compared to those other games. The Show, the "realistic sim game" didn't even get to half the sales of madden.

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

I'll tell you why I'm looking at it like that... I can already see it coming. Next year we will get things like fantasy draft, more facemasks, correct socks, and other nonsense. Then they will be able to point back to the site and the ridiculous crap that gets pushed to the top as the justification for why they did what they did.

then you need to get to voting things you dont think are important down and get things you think are voted up. and get others like yourself to do the same. and the stuff is only didiculous and nonsense because its not important to you. there are tons just by looking at what is being voted on that would disagree with you.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by DetroitStyle

Fair enough, you make some valid points. Hopefully some of those things will get pushed down in votes while we can get things like o-line play to the top of the list.

Well, I just think that Big is right, their should be categories. Wishlists and enhancements should be separate from bugs/legacy issues. Bugs/legacy issues should never be in competition with enhancements. We should never be voting fixes vs enhancements. They should be completely separate. It's this reason that I am also skeptical of the game changers site.

Plus, removed features should be on the bug fix/legacy issue list, not an enhancement list. Why should we be voting to GET FEATURES RETURNED in the same list as enhancements.