Madden NFL 13 Video Interview - EA Tiburon Breaks Down Some of the New Changes

[videlsports]

I have a wait and see approach.

[Smoke6]

Quote: Originally Posted by sgibs7

what im saying is a lot of the things you are saying you have issues with - i just dont see them happening on a consistent basis to the point that it ruins the experience of the game. I do not see players playing up on the LOS and recovering downfield on bombs. I do not see players intentionally running into WRs to cause PI and not allowing receivers to catch the ball. I do not see those above things consistent enough within the game for me to think its broken to the point that you are saying it is.

Players online do this to me all the time, its that risk v reward that doesn't exist (risk) like it sbould. Especially with the caliber of players being used to demonstrate this tactic, its not like their Troy Ps on every team, I could sort of understand that but that's not the case.

I should be rewarded greatly when my opponent moves the NT off the los and plays safety or LB with them thinking I'm passing only to come thru the line untouched from the spot where be moved from.

I can't wait to get home and start recording sessions against randoms to show this off, its amazing you haven't seen this yet.

What do think/feel about people tackling with the strip button?

I ran track aswell and the is mo way you can maintain a full Sprint without pumping your arms and fist but in madden you can see these guys chasing you down as if they are ready to hack you with a machete. No way this should happen, at best it should be clickable and not just hold down the button, as it is now the weakest smallest player on the team can strip anyone at any time. That's not enjoyable at all.

[Illustrator76]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smoke6

Players online do this to me all the time, its that risk v reward that doesn't exist (risk) like it sbould. Especially with the caliber of players being used to demonstrate this tactic, its not like their Troy Ps on every team, I could sort of understand that but that's not the case. I should be rewarded greatly when my opponent moves the NT off the los and plays safety or LB with them thinking I'm passing only to come thru the line untouched from the spot where be moved from. I can't wait to get home and start recording sessions against randoms to show this off, its amazing you haven't seen this yet. What do think/feel about people tackling with the strip button? I ran track aswell and the is mo way you can maintain a full Sprint without pumping your arms and fist but in madden you can see these guys chasing you down as if they are ready to hack you with a machete. No way this should happen, at best it should be clickable and not just hold down the button, as it is now the weakest smallest player on the team can strip anyone at any time. That's not enjoyable at all.

I agree with Smoke6 on this sgibs7. It really is more present than what you may be seeing, and it it can be a huge issue sometimes. It's blatant PI, and you can even feel the controller rumble because of the illegal contact to your receiver.

@sgibs7 It could be that you aren't seeing this issue because you stated that you user catch almost everything, where as I (and some others) don't. Maybe that somehow counters what people are able to do with their corners. Either way, I don't mind someone usering their corner as long as: A) It is in a realistic manner where physics and foot planting limit the superhuman BS, and B) Users get flagged for PI every single time they bump into my WR and knock him off of his route. If cats want to go all Asante Samuel with their corners and gamble for picks, then that is fine, but they should also have to deal with the consequences of those actions when they do something illegal, which they currently don't have to in Madden.

[sgibs7]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smoke6

Players online do this to me all the time, its that risk v reward that doesn't exist (risk) like it sbould. Especially with the caliber of players being used to demonstrate this tactic, its not like their Troy Ps on every team, I could sort of understand that but that's not the case. I should be rewarded greatly when my opponent moves the NT off the los and plays safety or LB with them thinking I'm passing only to come thru the line untouched from the spot where be moved from. I can't wait to get home and start recording sessions against randoms to show this off, its amazing you haven't seen this yet. That would be great if you could get some footage on it - thanks man What do think/feel about people tackling with the strip button? hate it - one of the most frustrating things in this current game for me. It was my number one issue to be addressed moving into the game next season. I ran track aswell and the is mo way you can maintain a full Sprint without pumping your arms and fist but in madden you can see these guys chasing you down as if they are ready to hack you with a machete. No way this should happen, at best it should be clickable and not just hold down the button, as it is now the weakest smallest player on the team can strip anyone at any time. That's not enjoyable at all.

Totally get the "chicken wing" as I like to call it. I wish that you could hold down cover up and it would just not allow you to fumble (or at a very low %).

[sgibs7]

Quote: Originally Posted by Illustrator76

I agree with Smoke6 on this sgibs7. It really is more present than what you may be seeing, and it it can be a huge issue sometimes. It's blatant PI, and you can even feel the controller rumble because of the illegal contact to your receiver. @sgibs7 It could be that you aren't seeing this issue because you stated that you user catch almost everything, where as I (and some others) don't. Maybe that somehow counters what people are able to do with their corners. Either way, I don't mind someone usering their corner as long as: A) It is in a realistic manner where physics and foot planting limit the superhuman BS, and B) Users get flagged for PI every single time they bump into my WR and knock him off of his route. If cats want to go all Asante Samuel with their corners and gamble for picks, then that is fine, but they should also have to deal with the consequences of those actions when they do something illegal, which they currently don't have to in Madden.

i THINK you can make contact or face guard a receiver as long as you maintain your ground? could be wrong on this but I think you are probably 100% right that if you dont click on to the receiver and your opponent does - i could see it being a biggg time issue if they could literally accomplish it every single rip. Im making show 225 about this topic and i will try to attempt to do this

[EmmdotFrisk]

Quote: Originally Posted by sgibs7

i like that idea and could be pretty interesting to see. but in terms of exploits, nanos, and money plays they just dont exist. (edit - there are things that might be exploits and need to be fixed for the next years game - but they still can be stopped in the current game by the defense making adjustments and vice versa - ) a lot of people might consider Gun Tight Flex WR Cross as a money play as it can be a lot of defenses based on hits routes. Now against any stock defnese with no adjustments - yes it will be effective the majority of the time. For example the wheel route on the far left of this play will literally have the advantage against man to man coverage nearly every play as he breaks up field. Now if the defense switches to zone then this no longer becomes effective, the defense can also drop a purple zone into the same area if they are playing man to man defense and it will also stop this route. Falcon Cross might be called a money play because its effective and can attacka lot of different defenses but i think a lot of the issues people experiance in this game are caused by a lack of adjustments. nano's dont exist because you can use slide protection to pick up intended pressure. many times guys send 6 pass rushers after the QB and then i hear people complain about a nano. 6 against 5 is a overload and not a nano. I think we talked about all this before lol - definlty with the sim sheriff haha

haha, what an epic battle. I can't wait to see you Farls, Ryno, and Shaun battle royale for the "sim vs freestyle" debate.

[sgibs7]

Quote: Originally Posted by EmmdotFrisk

haha, what an epic battle. I can't wait to see you Farls, Ryno, and Shaun battle royale for the "sim vs freestyle" debate.

you know me man - i think there is only one type of madden player and that is a madden player.

we all want the game to be good but overall the entire community has way to many people hating on each other for really no reason.

one person hates another because they play differently and vice versa - might always stay that way but overall we all want the same thing.

a sound football game.

my favorite football game of all time... Tecmo Superbowl...why? because it was fun and while it lacked presentation and the glitz and glam it still was a chess match, you had the ability to have user contorl and interaction. point blank the game was fun. I enjoyed my time playing that game. Ya there loads of things wrong with it but it simulated football and was just awesome.

the epic battles I had with farls playing that game just cant be duplicated elsewhere. Madden does this for me now and really thats why I love the game is because of the entertainment and compeition it provides.

VivaLaMadden

[BlackBetty15]

Quote: Originally Posted by sgibs7

you know me man - i think there is only one type of madden player and that is a madden player. we all want the game to be good but overall the entire community has way to many people hating on each other for really no reason. one person hates another because they play differently and vice versa - might always stay that way but overall we all want the same thing. a sound football game. my favorite football game of all time... Tecmo Superbowl...why? because it was fun and while it lacked presentation and the glitz and glam it still was a chess match, you had the ability to have user contorl and interaction. point blank the game was fun. I enjoyed my time playing that game. Ya there loads of things wrong with it but it simulated football and was just awesome. the epic battles I had with farls playing that game just cant be duplicated elsewhere. Madden does this for me now and really thats why I love the game is because of the entertainment and compeition it provides. VivaLaMadden

Like I said, while there is some truth to your madden player "Oracle" line, the issue remains so much more simple than you would think. Sliders on game says this...I adjust sliders to my liking...said sliders does not work what so ever. This happens to four penalty sliders hence...its broken...completely.

2. There is punt and fg block...once in a blue moon I can block fg but punts never get close. Neither I or the CPU which is a no go. This is broken because the animation for the linger is rushed to get the ball off. He tales no steps forward...he catches and magically boots it...no muey caliente compadre.

Fix what's broken, and tune what's bad. Couple that with all the cool guy features and the majority of gamers have that much less to gripe about. I know I won't say another word other than high praises and endorsements to my friends to buy madden so I can finally play an honest game of football.

[Big FN Deal]

I never thought of myself as that much of a football snob but maybe I am because I honestly can't believe we are discussing something as basic and essential to simulating football in a video game as DPI, as a matter of opinion. WTF?

Illegal touch is reported to be added just this year and I presume ineligible man down field still isn't. There is something seriously funked up when NFL penalties that have been represented in football games years ago are not only lacking in today's football SIMULATIONS but viewed as non essential by devs, community reps and/or the majority of the community itself, imo.

[sgibs7]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

I never thought of myself as that much of a football snob but maybe I am because I honestly can't believe we are discussing something as basic and essential to simulating football in a video game as DPI, as a matter of opinion. WTF? Illegal touch is reported to be added just this year and I presume ineligible man down field still isn't. There is something seriously funked up when NFL penalties that have been represented in football games years ago are not only lacking in today's football SIMULATIONS but viewed as non essential by devs, community reps and/or the majority of the community itself, imo.

i didnt once say they are non essential. bc they are essential to make a good game

i said that i dont see, notice, or have been aware of pass interference happening in the game, I just dont see it happening in reference to what your saying. thats why I was asking for a video that you might have to show me the example that your referring to.

im making my own video so hopefully you can point it out to me