A Reality Check About Game Development

[Big FN Deal]

I think I am often very critical of next-gen Madden and the decisions that have been made concerning it but sometimes ignorantly so. I know that I can not possibly be as smart as I think I am and therefore don't mind admitting when I am wrong. lol

Anyway, I happened to stumble on a recording DaCzar's radio show Saturday night and it really caused me to "pump my brakes" about my approach towards developers. I would like posters that are interested, to listen to the topic discussion on the show and post their perspective on it, in relation to Madden.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/daczar/...evelopment-101

I personally enjoyed the entire show but game development is specifically discussed starting at the 27:00 minute mark and lasts until the end of the show.

[PGaither84]

Football can be properly represented and respected in video games. Any excuse saying otherwise is just that... an excuse.

I love all the fake percentages he makes up while talking.

With all this talk about time... they had the Time to create a secret Dev team. They had time to create fake 1980's 49ers White pants. They had time to do and create a lot of stuff that don't need to be in the game while saying they don't have the time to create and do things that DO need to be in the game.

[kjcheezhead]

Basically I felt like that podcast offered up the same tired excuses for the developers that we always hear. They have a hard job, they are under time contstraints, they are making a game to sell the most copies and not necessarily the game I want them to make.

At the end of the day, none of that matters. They face the same problems every other game developer faces. Either the game they release is fun to me and I buy it or it isn't and I'll choose to buy other games instead.

[TNT713]

AMEN BROTHA!!!

Started the show at 27:00 and listened to the rest... I agree with practically every word DaCzar was saying. Great show. Better discussion.

If only they weren't talking so much about basketball... lol

Later

[RedZoneD25]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

Football can be properly represented and respected in video games. Any excuse saying otherwise is just that... an excuse. I love all the fake percentages he makes up while talking. With all this talk about time... they had the Time to create a secret Dev team. They had time to create fake 1980's 49ers White pants. They had time to do and create a lot of stuff that don't need to be in the game while saying they don't have the time to create and do things that DO need to be in the game.

I have to say, I expected better from you. Do you really think that the inclusion of the dev team in the game bounced Online Franchise from being updated or something? I'm not even being sarcastic.

[PGaither84]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedZoneD25

I have to say, I expected better from you. Do you really think that the inclusion of the dev team in the game bounced Online Franchise from being updated or something? I'm not even being sarcastic.

I think it took time away from adding away throwback uniforms.

The uniforms they created could have been uniforms or uniform correction time. Player creation could have been spent on making other players look more accurate.

Coding the team into the game and how to unlock them could have been spent on something else.

So, yes. Yes I do. Time was spent on things non essential to the game that could have been spent somewhere else, yet they still want to cry about not having enough time.

[Soprano00]

they sold 5 millions copies of M12 earning around 250 millions dollars (for 1 year) and the matter of the topic is development time ?

LOL

[JerzeyReign]

We can't make excuses for Madden/NCAA forever. When you have games like The Show, NBA 2k, and Fifa doing excellent jobs with their games (including the "little things") its tough to look at the football games with the same thought process. And just to throw gas on the fire -- all of those games have "competition" on the market.

[Soprano00]

Quote: Originally Posted by SalutationsNJ

We can't make excuses for Madden/NCAA forever. When you have games like The Show, NBA 2k, and Fifa

I don't know the other games but I know very well FIFA (more than 3000 online games in the last three years) and I assure you that EA is spoiling FIFA as well, if not more than Madden. In Madden at least the better player usually wins, that's not the case in FIFA.

EA's market is for casual gamers, let's face it.

[Smoke6]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soprano00

I don't know the other games but I know very well FIFA (more than 3000 online games in the last three years) and I assure you that EA is spoiling FIFA as well, if not more than Madden. In Madden at least the better player usually wins, that's not the case in FIFA. EA's market is for casual gamers, let's face it.

Whats so frustrating is that this is how madden started off in the online realm and got worse after about 3 years. From that point on its been an uphill battle and seem like an internal struggle instead of outright going into 1 direction.

With all the fuss and negativity going on with this game over the last 7 years, what could be so bad about them taking a chance at realism when almost each version ends up being a waste of WTF!