Pancakes?... JUST REMOVE THEM FROM THE GAME!!

[booker21]

I mean, if they are not going to get this right and they don`t even care to fix this.. why they have this stat on the game?

Just base the OL progression on Rushing Yds and HB Avg and remove the Pancake stat...

OR..

FIX IT!..

[kingkilla56]

im with you on this. pancakes are not a stat in the nfl for a reason. because they mean nothing(very little rather) to the overall skill of the linemen.

[true blue7]

same here
Get rid of them and base it on something like % of successfull blocks or something like that.
even if pancakes worked it would be only good for strong blockers.

[mikekim21]

This is a problem that has been around for at least 5 years so at this point there is really no excuse. There have been no improvements and it definitely seems like they don't care about this problem.


So please, just get rid of them EA

[smittymac]

I say leave it in the game, lets just hope that they get it right. We need a stat to put our lineman in the probowl.

[maademperor]

Quote: Originally Posted by smittymac

I say leave it in the game, lets just hope that they get it right. We need a stat to put our lineman in the probowl.

i agree...unless they are going to start basing it off the % of snaps they played and the number of sacks they gave up (100% of snaps with only 5 sacks allowed or something). but even still the progression logic needs something else to leverage...rushing avg/yds is probably the best bet I guess

[Deegeezy]

I think it should be removed also. It does not correlate with real life. I can't go to nfl.com and look up pancake stats.

And like others have said, its NEVER woked properly for user controlled teams.

[smittymac]

So how would you get lineman into the probowl?

[mems1224]

Quote: Originally Posted by booker21

I mean, if they are not going to get this right and they don`t even care to fix this.. why they have this stat on the game? Just base the OL progression on Rushing Yds and HB Avg and remove the Pancake stat... OR.. FIX IT!..

yea lineman progression should be based on how many times they get beat by the defender or how many tackles they give up behind the line of scrimmage. i mean they can tell us how many sacks they let happen but nothing else??

same for corners. there should be a stat for times thrown to their side and yards per attempt. it cant be that hard to do.

[Deegeezy]

Quote: Originally Posted by smittymac

So how would you get lineman into the probowl?

Lineman IRL get Pro Bowl votes mainly in two ways - Team offensive success and individual popularity. Not stats

I think a combination of sacks allowed, rating, and team success should play a factor. There should also be a general "% of individual successful plays" being accounted for.