Whoever is in charge of Madden should follow NBA Live 2010's lead. NBA Live hired a NBA 2k guy (Mike Wang) to pretty much fix NBA Live. The Madden series should do the same and just hire somebody or multiple ppl from the NFL 2k series to pretty much improve Madden. I've tried the NBA Live 2010 demo and I will say that it is a vast improvement. Imagine what can be done for Madden!! :-)[Reply]
En Fuego 09:31 PM 09-15-2009
well, madden has no incentive to do this tho.. live did
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KANE699 09:33 PM 09-15-2009
Funny story, we were told about this at community day by Eric and he said to watch for good things comming from them.
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Tyrant8RDFL 09:35 PM 09-15-2009
Originally Posted by rawcorp:
Whoever is in charge of Madden should follow NBA Live 2010's lead. NBA Live hired a NBA 2k guy (Mike Wang) to pretty much fix NBA Live. The Madden series should do the same and just hire somebody or multiple ppl from the NFL 2k series to pretty much improve Madden. I've tried the NBA Live 2010 demo and I will say that it is a vast improvement. Imagine what can be done for Madden!! :-)
I think the problem really lies with the engine madden uses , more than EA needing to hire 2k people, but I can see why you feel that way.
Right now its looking like a really good move for the Live series.
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Matt23134 09:46 PM 09-15-2009
I believe Ian has stated that he went back and looked at NFL 2K5 to try to get ideas for improving Madden.
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Tyrant8RDFL 09:54 PM 09-15-2009
Originally Posted by Matt23134:
I believe Ian has stated that he went back and looked at NFL 2K5 to try to get ideas for improving Madden.
Wow this is interesting, if this is true all I can really do is laugh :-)[Reply]
rawcorp 10:00 PM 09-15-2009
Madden 10 does have a lot of good things going for it. I think things have been nicely improved upon since Madden 09. But I feel that Madden keeps improving each year just to beat the previous Madden. It doesnt seem to improve to be the best football game ever. How is it that nfl 2k5, a game made 5 yrs ago on an older system, has better core football mechanics than Madden 2010? We should be able to hands down say that Madden 10 is a better football game than NFL 2k5 instead of saying its better than Madden 09.
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rawcorp 10:16 PM 09-15-2009
Originally Posted by Tyrant8RDFL:
I think the problem really lies with the engine madden uses , more than EA needing to hire 2k people, but I can see why you feel that way.
Right now its looking like a really good move for the Live series.
Yeah I just said hire 2k people because the Live 2010 feels like a game from previous Live titles, after they hired a 2k guy lol. I dont know if they made a whole new engine, or just "fixed" it. There just seems to be a correlation when the 2k guy was put in charge, the game started to be a lot more realistic.
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Ian_Cummings_EA 10:26 PM 09-15-2009
I think we're on the right track, and most that notice the core changes from 09 to 10 agree. Not everyone does, such is life, but the focus shifted away from one of new & flashy mechanics towards core gameplay improvements with our new design team.
I don't think it matters whether a person worked at 2k or not, its whether they 'get it' and whether they are focused on creating good and realistic gameplay. Our current team is built that way - and we're going to continue down that path of realism and authenticity.
I personally look at ALL games for inspiration, including 2k8, 2k5, and any other game that has positive elements. That's part of being a good designer IMO - finding things that other games do well and improving on it.
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rawcorp 11:12 PM 09-15-2009
Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA:
I think we're on the right track, and most that notice the core changes from 09 to 10 agree. Not everyone does, such is life, but the focus shifted away from one of new & flashy mechanics towards core gameplay improvements with our new design team.
I don't think it matters whether a person worked at 2k or not, its whether they 'get it' and whether they are focused on creating good and realistic gameplay. Our current team is built that way - and we're going to continue down that path of realism and authenticity.
I personally look at ALL games for inspiration, including 2k8, 2k5, and any other game that has positive elements. That's part of being a good designer IMO - finding things that other games do well and improving on it.
In all honesty I didnt mean for this thread to come across as some sort of "get all 2k guys to make Madden" type of thing. Madden 10 has a lot of good things going for it, and has so much potential. In all honesty Ian, you and your team have improved Madden the most.
I want Madden to be the best football series ever, especially since its the only NFL title available. Its just frustrating to see an older NFL game perform some of the physics that make football realistic better than Madden 10. Being a former EA QA tester I also know that its not always possible to get everything put into the game in time for deadlines. But I think that physics are the top priority in a simulation football game.
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