All Ratings Talk Here Per Millennium

[HolyCrap]

well over 40 sacks allowed by the oline and the steelers couldnt run the ball as well as the years past so I would think this oline would be rated down a bit and will force the CPU and the individual to play with the steelers the way they steelers played last year and thats with defense and big ben making plays when he had to.

But madden is mostly and offensive so its very hard to win with defense.

[Glorious Arc]

Quote: Originally Posted by thunderstruck22

I dont know how you could translate this to a video game without making the steelers complely inefective on offense.Id rather have high unrealistic rating to the line than have big ben getting blown up on every passing play. Although big ben went down alot last year the oline really seems to shine when the game is on the line, again how could you translate this to a video game UNLESS you came up with a new rating something like a players 2min clutch rating

The percentage that the Steelers Oline let up compared to the small amount of times they were good warrant them to have 70s in their pass block ratings. The higher the rating the less they will let pass rushers though. If it was not for big ben then they would have let up a ton of more sacks. He evaded and threw on the run while being hit countless times.

The steelers oline was average at best for pass blocking but they all almost have 80+ pass block strength and a couple of them have 80+ for the other pass block ratings. The average starter with the new rosters should be in the 70s and they are average blockers. I will give them they played against good defenses but they gave up a lot to those teams and performed like an average player. Average players get owned by superstars but their current stats would give them a slight edge when IRL they did not have this.

To better represent how the steelers are IRL they should they should lower their pass block ratings and Big Ben already has a 97 TNR(throw on run) and I would feel comfortable upping that to a 99 because he deserves it.

[thunderstruck22]

Quote:

To better represent how the steelers are IRL they should they should lower their pass block ratings and Big Ben already has a 97 TNR(throw on run) and I would feel comfortable upping that to a 99 because he deserves it

Again im not sure it will seem very realistic having big ben scrambling all over the place in the backfield breaking sacks and chucking 50 yard bombs, I guess we will just have to wait and see how it plays out and how much of a "sim" this game really is.

[HolyCrap]

its hard to simulate guys hanging on you and throwing passes so its give and take

[Glorious Arc]

Quote: Originally Posted by thunderstruck22

Again im not sure it will seem very realistic having big ben scrambling all over the place in the backfield breaking sacks and chucking 50 yard bombs, I guess we will just have to wait and see how it plays out and how much of a "sim" this game really is.

Wait what......Are you sure Ben doesnt run around chucking bombs accurately



It is a fact that Ben throws better outside the pocket on the move then he does in it. I agree that he should not be nailing every pass on the money but I am saying he should not be penalized harshly for throwing on the run. It may lead to cheese BUT that is how he plays IRL

[Ray52Lewis]

im sorry to talk about the ravens today but there ratins are a joke
First off an overall of 82 is pathetic. We are cleary a top 4 team in the league.

Onto the ratings, First ill say who i think is too low and then to high

Too Low
Frank Walker - a 49, are you serious. Frank had one of the highest forced incompletion rates last year and is an extrmely physical defender who can play man to man very well. I think he is far too low.

Kelly Gregg - 77, what? a 77. This guy is one of the most under rated players in the league. In a way i can understand because of his injury but 77 is still very low. i hope by week 2 when he dominates he will be back up to the high 80's

Jared Gaither - he is easily top 5 pass blocking tackle and his pass blocking ratings are far too low. He only let in 2 sacks last year and he went against Harrison twice, Ware, Porter, Cole, Van Den Bosch, Freeney, Mario Williams and Tuck. He also did it with one arm for half the season. I am shocked at how low his ratings are

Tavares Gooden - he is far too slow, He should be atleast an 88 speed. The fact he is slower than Ray in this game is laughable. Gooden should also be atleast a 70, i can understand the 60+ rating because he hasnt played yet but the speed thing is just silly

Too high
Joe Flacco -I love Joe but he is too high at 81. He doesnt deserve that ratings yet. He managed last year. His strength is too high as he is stronger than some linebackers which is crazy.

Matt Birk - last year he was quite bad in run blocking and an 88 iss too high IMO

Adam Terry - he should be in the 60's, he is injury prone and a terrible player.

Todd Heap - he should have to prove himself. HE was garbage last year and should have to prove himself to be an 84 which is a good rating with the new system

Thats just a few problems i have with the ratings. and Jason Phillips and Davon Drew arent even on the roster??

[thunderstruck22]

Quote: Originally Posted by Glorious Arc

Wait what......Are you sure Ben doesnt run around chucking bombs accurately It is a fact that Ben throws better outside the pocket on the move then he does in it. I agree that he should not be nailing every pass on the money but I am saying he should not be penalized harshly for throwing on the run. It may lead to cheese BUT that is how he plays IRL

Im not questioning if ben does this in real life what i am saying is how will this translate to a video game. Its going to be lame if big ben is the unsackable bomb chucking qb on every play

[Glorious Arc]

Quote: Originally Posted by thunderstruck22

Im not questioning if ben does this in real life what i am saying is how will this translate to a video game. Its going to be lame if big ben is the unsackable bomb chucking qb on every play

I see what you mean about the cheese ben may produce but...he should be tough to sack. But because of how often the line should give up plays he will be sacked because there is only so much a guy should be able to do. They tell us players will play like their real-life counter parts and seeing Ben do what he does IRL should be in M10.

By having a higher pass blocking line Ben will become even more ridiculous because the Dline will not be able to get to him as fast or as often as they do IRL. The steelers offense would only give up a handful of sacks because there will be fewer QB rushes on Ben...I suppose I should play the steelers(bad pass blocking line IRL) first and see how effective the pass rush is compared to using the patriots(good pass blocking line) before making these kind of judgments but I dont think the current ratings will generate 45+ sacks against ben like he has had happen in the past three seasons and that is my issue.

[LBzrule]

My biggest concerns with the Steelers and Ravens defensive ratings is that I don't see how these ratings will get them to play as the top two defensive teams in the game especially after seeing Ian's Titans vs Ravens video, where neither team Titans or Ravens played like top 10 defenses. Ray Lewis and Ed Reed have 99 play recognition and they were getting fooled left and right. Reed didn't know when to come up in run support allowing the back to come pass the line 3 to 4 yards before coming up in run support, meanwhile he was back pedaling 20 yards away. Lewis, getting sucked up and in on the Fake FB Dive HB Toss play every time it was ran and these guys have 99 play recognition. Lewis going inside on toss plays and getting sucked up by blockers. If they have not addressed the play recognition rating, if Reed and Lewis are doing that at 99 in that category, imagine what the lower rated players are gonna be doing.

[HolyCrap]

thats true Lb i saw that also.

also the safeties as soon as the ball is snapped are back pedaling as soon as the ball is snapped even on pass plays. so if the wr runs a medium range route the safety is way out of position and is too 30 to 40 yards away from the line of scrimmage. in real football the safety will wait and diagnose the play before deciding if he needs to be deeper than 25 yards off the ball.

also at times the olb and dline man didnt seem to want to attack to ball carrier and just got blocked and only got off blocks when the rb was next to them