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[J Masta J]

Quote: Originally Posted by Candyman5

Wow, thank yo. Lol. Didn't think I would see that from a Packers fan. Lol.

Well, I take ratings very seriously, and I try not to let my pure hatred for the purple and yellow to show...

[ShimSham]

One more thing I've been trying to figure out. Rodgers beats Cutler in all three primary accuracy categories, but is still one point lower in overall accuracy than Cutler.

I can't say for sure, I'm just guessing but it looks like Throw on the Run and Play action factors into overall accuracy. But that doesn't quite solve it.

Between Short, Med, and Deep accuracy, plus Play Action, Rodgers holds a 6 point total advantage over Cutler in those categories.

But Cutler has a 6 point total advantage in the Throw on Run rating by itself.

So you think they would be even, but Cutler has the 1 point overall accuracy advantage. Which is a little weird. Maybe some of those categories are weighted just a little. Or maybe throw power is factored in somehow, which Cutler holds a 3 point advantage in.

Not sure, but it's interesting. Anyone with any input?

[jimmyy201]

Quote: Originally Posted by ShimSham

One more thing I've been trying to figure out. Rodgers beats Cutler in all three primary accuracy categories, but is still one point lower in overall accuracy than Cutler. I can't say for sure, I'm just guessing but it looks like Throw on the Run and Play action factors into overall accuracy. But that doesn't quite solve it. Between Short, Med, and Deep accuracy, plus Play Action, Rodgers holds a 6 point total advantage over Cutler in those categories. But Cutler has a 6 point total advantage in the Throw on Run rating by itself. So you think they would be even, but Cutler has the 1 point overall accuracy advantage. Which is a little weird. Maybe some of those categories are weighted just a little. Or maybe throw power is factored in somehow, which Cutler holds a 3 point advantage in. Not sure, but it's interesting. Anyone with any input?

Isn't curlers throw power higher? N maybe his awareness?

[ShimSham]

I noted his throw power advantage there at the end of my post. I didn't consider awareness though. Cutler has a one point advantage there.

[Glorious Arc]

Its funny how people are upset about their RBs being off and everything and almost everyone gets up in arms upset about it. When it comes to LTs carry rating no one even cares. He was flat out robbed. 87 carry with only one fumble on over 700 touches in two seasons. He had only 30 or so less touches(catches and rushes) then Turner and only fumbled once yet Turner fumbled 3 times and is 11 points higher then LT.

LT has been one of the best ever at not fumbling the ball. He averages nearly 120+ touches per fumble. To put that in perspective Jerome Bettis(one of the best at not fumbling as well) averaged somewhere around 90 touches per fumble.

LTs trucking stats for sure and maybe his atheltic stats could be lowered(he was hurt so I cant be sure yet) to reflect how he plays IRL. I still say LT should have anywhere from 98-100 carry.

This is the last time I will bother to bring it up but its almost criminal how badly he was shorted. For those not seeing the numbers in perspective...I want you to picture Jermacus Russel with 88 throw power, Chris Johnson/Devin Hester with 88 speed, or Larry Fitzgerld with 88 catching. These players are obvious 99s in their given stat because they are the best/fastest/strongest. LT is obviously not fumbling the ball(is the best at not fumbling it), so why did he get an 87 carry?

[hiuhyoi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Glorious Arc

Its funny how people are upset about their RBs being off and everything and almost everyone gets up in arms upset about it. When it comes to LTs carry rating no one even cares. He was flat out robbed. 87 carry with only one fumble on over 700 touches in two seasons. He had only 30 or so less touches(catches and rushes) then Turner and only fumbled once yet Turner fumbled 3 times and is 11 points higher then LT. LT has been one of the best ever at not fumbling the ball. He averages nearly 120+ touches per fumble. To put that in perspective Jerome Bettis(one of the best at not fumbling as well) averaged somewhere around 90 touches per fumble. If LT had 99 carry he'd either be a 99 OVR or pay for it in his "important" attributes (e.g speed & trucking etc.). LTs trucking stats for sure and maybe his atheltic stats could be lowered(he was hurt so I cant be sure yet) to reflect how he plays IRL. I still say LT should have anywhere from 98-100 carry. This is the last time I will bother to bring it up but its almost criminal how badly he was shorted. For those not seeing the numbers in perspective...I want you to picture Jermacus Russel with 88 throw power, Chris Johnson/Devin Hester with 88 speed, or Larry Fitzgerld with 88 catching. These players are obvious 99s in their given stat because they are the best/fastest/strongest. LT is obviously not fumbling the ball(is the best at not fumbling it), so why did he get an 87 carry?

Honestly I'd say it's so it doesn't inflate LT's overall too much, he's a pretty balanced back in the game which boosts it up so there had to be something to pull the OVR back. While I agree that everyone should be graded separately on their ability logistically it just won't happen (Especially considering the fuss every year over OVR ratings).

Also I assume the niggling injuries and his age (He's about to hit the 30 wall coming after a very average season) would have something do with it.

[salbowski]

Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

A couple of observations: -It's a travesty that Percy Harvin comes into the league and is better than James Jones, Jordy Nelson, and a slew of other people. The rookie ratings apparently did not suffer the same "stretching" that everyone else has, and it makes rookie ratings seem even more inflated.

I agree... i don't understand why the stretched out ratings don't seem to apply to rookies.

Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

-Chester Taylor, at 78, is incredibly underrated. He'd be a starter on half of the teams in this league. I think he's right around Ryan Grant in terms of talent, yet Grant fared 7 points better with an 85.

I agree... i think he's more talented than Grant tbh but the vikings use him so little as an actual running back that his stats don't support it.
He's an amazing 3rd down back and deserves more than 78 catching... It blows my mind that Chester is rated lower than quite a few rookies.

I'm still mythed at the E.J Henderson, hell the whole linebacking core bitch slap.

[cowboyscowboys]

Quote: Originally Posted by ShimSham

One more thing I've been trying to figure out. Rodgers beats Cutler in all three primary accuracy categories, but is still one point lower in overall accuracy than Cutler. I can't say for sure, I'm just guessing but it looks like Throw on the Run and Play action factors into overall accuracy. But that doesn't quite solve it. Between Short, Med, and Deep accuracy, plus Play Action, Rodgers holds a 6 point total advantage over Cutler in those categories. But Cutler has a 6 point total advantage in the Throw on Run rating by itself. So you think they would be even, but Cutler has the 1 point overall accuracy advantage. Which is a little weird. Maybe some of those categories are weighted just a little. Or maybe throw power is factored in somehow, which Cutler holds a 3 point advantage in. Not sure, but it's interesting. Anyone with any input?

Overall Accuracy is for Simulation purposes only, it has no effect on throw accuracy in a game.

[maxamilian 27]

The developers have the speeds all wrong. Everyone in the league has equal speed per position.At each position there are a few exceptions. Identify those exceptions and give them elite speed. THERE SHOULD BE NO LINEBACKERS THAT ARE FASTER THAN ANY WIDE RECIEVER IN THIS GAME. ALL CORNERS SHOULD BE FASTER THAN ALL LINEBACKERS. The developers need to lay these rules down before they start to give speed ratings. Obviously they are not giving speed ratings according to forty times; so what guidelines are you guys going by to determine speed??? Oh I know sportcenter,the media, and idiots' perception. Since most linebackers run anywhere from 4.5 and lower, put them all in a speed bracket and don't stray from it. Lets say from 85 down. The guys that are the exception(p. willis and ect. should be given 1 or 2 points higher with more acc. Use the quickness, awareness, and playrecognition ratings separate the elite linbackers as it should.And there you have it.
Since all corners run anywhere from a 4.5 and faster, rate them occordingly. 85 and up. 85 to 99 is plenty to separate the D. Halls from the A. Henrys of the world. There is a reason why if A player doesnt run a certain forty for a certain position, THEY WILL NOT DRAFT HIM, OR HE HAS TO "CHANGE HIS POSITION." This leads to everyone having a certain speed for their position.

Safeties fall in the same category as the corners, but there may be a hanfull of guys that run in the 4.6 4.7 range. They can be rated in with the linebackers.
Tightends should fall in with the linebackers, 85 and lower, with the few exceptions,(V. Davis and company) and wide receivers should fall in with the corners, with exceptions to the 4.6 4.7 guys, which there shouldnot be many.
And there you have it. You have the elite speed guys per position standing out, like p. willis and etc. having corner and safety like speed, v. davis and etc. having wr like speed and there wont be all of these jacked up speed ratings.EA, There are slow corners in the league but, stop allowing perception to and media hype, get you away from the facts; because A. Henry is not slower than 50 pecent of the linebackers in the league. EA, slow corner, 4.5, not a slow linebacker, 4.8. This is not hard. if you apply these guidelines to your speed ratings, it will make us happy, and no one would be able to pick apart the logic that you are using.

[July 4 1776]

I cant believe im losing this...any support from os?
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/...?category_id=1