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Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

Where are you getting these specific ratings? The ones on ESPN don't have things like catch in traffic nor stiff arm. Weird.

http://maddennfl.easports.com/cover.action

You can download spreadsheets with full ratings. I thought Jones and Jordy were snubbed a little bit too but Jones hardly saw the field last year with knee problems and Jordy was just a sometimes #3 WR rookie. I'd hope both have big potential ratings, especially Jordy, who will almost definitely replace Driver when he steps out.

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Honestly, how badly do you think that Brady is going to drop off? I am not a Pats fan at all but I don't expect Brady to have that big of a drop off this year at all. Lots of players have had injuries and come back looking pretty good ie: Willis McGahee. As for D. Hall..his speed rating should be high as hell, but I agree he really isn't that good. He will get burnt very often in a game and lacks in man coverage and zone. But I do think once you get the game, you will be able to set the ratings to whatever you like..so in short...WHY ARE YOU BITCHING?!..that's all

[J Masta J]

Quote: Originally Posted by ShimSham

http://maddennfl.easports.com/cover.action You can download spreadsheets with full ratings. I thought Jones and Jordy were snubbed a little bit too but Jones hardly saw the field last year with knee problems and Jordy was just a sometimes #3 WR rookie. I'd hope both have big potential ratings, especially Jordy, who will almost definitely replace Driver when he steps out.

James and Jordy are worse/equal to the Lions back-ups. That's unacceptable.

Also, Daryn Colledge should be irate with the disrespect he received in the form of a 72 rating (?). He was one our best O-lineman last year and has developed into a good starter. Should be up there with Spitz around 80.

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Yeah, Colledge didn't really get recognized for developing into one of our best O-linemen last year, but he was pretty bad his first two years in the league. And playing Guard is a hard position to get noticed.

When the game comes out I'll probably bump him up a little bit and drop Clifton some. Probably will put Jordy and Jones up a little bit from where they are. Then I'll probably bump Jeremy Thompson up a lot (from 50 ovr) and drop Kampman down a bit. (mainly in AWR and play recognition, he's already awful in coverage in the game) I'll probably bump Grant down a few.

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Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

Where are you getting these specific ratings? The ones on ESPN don't have things like catch in traffic nor stiff arm. Weird. Separate note. Packers WR's after Driver and Jennings are incredibly underrated. James Jones and Jordy Nelson could start on 1/2 the teams in the NFL and they got shafted, 71 and 69 respectively. Bull. They should be mid-high 70s. Also: Rookie ratings may be a bit down from last year, but not nearly enough if everyone else is down like 20 points. I'd say every rookie could use a 2-5 point drop.

Wow. Driver has a 62 elusiveness? Seriously? He has to be THE hardest wide reciver in the league to tackle and he gets a 62 elusivness? And how about a 56 for strength? How many cornerbacks does he need to throw around before he gets a decent strength rating? Come on Donny, you could at least do a little research on the better players before rating them.

[J Masta J]

Quote: Originally Posted by ShimSham

Yeah, Colledge didn't really get recognized for developing into one of our best O-linemen last year, but he was pretty bad his first two years in the league. And playing Guard is a hard position to get noticed. When the game comes out I'll probably bump him up a little bit and drop Clifton some. Probably will put Jordy and Jones up a little bit from where they are. Then I'll probably bump Jeremy Thompson up a lot (from 50 ovr) and drop Kampman down a bit. (mainly in AWR and play recognition, he's already awful in coverage in the game) I'll probably bump Grant down a few.

I'd have to agree with all those adjustments. I'd also bump Collins down like 3 and move Tramon up a few to like a 77. Collins made a lot of plays but he had some mental lapses too.

[J Masta J]

Quote: Originally Posted by D0NTSH0OTME

Wow. Driver has a 62 elusiveness? Seriously? He has to be THE hardest wide reciver in the league to tackle and he gets a 62 elusivness? And how about a 56 for strength? How many cornerbacks does he need to throw around before he gets a decent strength rating? Come on Donny, you could at least do a little research on the better players before rating them.

Yah, jeesh, 62? That's his bread and butter, making guys miss after the catch.

I just read we're ranked top 10 in WR, LB, and secondary, but 31st in O-line???? I know we weren't great last year, but that seems just a little off. Colledge needs to be bumped up significantly.

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Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

Yah, jeesh, 62? That's his bread and butter, making guys miss after the catch. I just read we're ranked top 10 in WR, LB, and secondary, but 31st in O-line???? I know we weren't great last year, but that seems just a little off. Colledge needs to be bumped up significantly.

Where did you read that? On another note, why is Crosby ranked so low? Didn't he lead the league in points scored one season with 141 or something?

[J Masta J]

Quote: Originally Posted by D0NTSH0OTME

Where did you read that? On another note, why is Crosby ranked so low? Didn't he lead the league in points scored one season with 141 or something?

On the maddennfl.easports.com website.

yah i know...he has 99 KPW though which is really all that matters

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Quote: Originally Posted by J Masta J

I'd have to agree with all those adjustments. I'd also bump Collins down like 3 and move Tramon up a few to like a 77. Collins made a lot of plays but he had some mental lapses too.

Yeah I'd agree with that, and Collins is going to be behind nearly everyone since he's skipping OTAs and the FS is supposed to play a big part in the defense.