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[Scott]

Quote: Originally Posted by JimmyK

As long as Madden adjust individual ratings to tell the difference I'm fine with it. Jenkins, Rogers, and Hampton should have really high strength, and run stopping, Ratliff's acceleration and speed should be much higher then those, as well as pass rushing moves. He's great at what he does, a completely different player then the others, Ratliff would be a DE in most 3-4 DE schemes anyway but Dallas never got the traditional big NT.

Heres the strength #'s

Jenkins - 97
Rogers - 98
Hampton - 98
Ratliff - 87

[Donovangian]

I really feel that some of the Bears were not evaluated properly. Specifically the secondary. Now I know that we ranked at the bottom of the league in pass defense. But we were troubled by injuries. So here are my thoughts on the Chicago Bears roster. Some are good and some are bad. And I really hope that they are adjusted on a roster update.

#1. Corey Graham His tackle rating (35) and Pursuit (70) is way to low! he finished the season with two tackles less than Urlacher and is ranked 55th in tackles in the NFL. Thats good for a corner. Keep in ming he only started 9 games.

#2. Josh Bullocks This guy is not a good player. and his overall rating of (76) is too high. He takes poor angles to the ball and does not have good play recognition. SEE YOUTUBE Highlights for him.

#3. Daniel Manning His speed rating (88) and return (72) ratings are too low! He Is the 2nd fastest player on our roster and probably the most versatile. he's played 4 positions for the Bears. he and D. Hester race in camp every year. and its close. Of the 1000 plus yard returners in the league, He lead the NFL in KICK OFF RETURN yards last year with an average of 29.7.

#4. Kevin Pain currently rated (76) overall. 2008 SEASON: Paced the team and tied for sixth amongst NFL safeties with 4 INTs, starting all 16 games... Ranked 2nd on Chicago in tackles and was 6th in the NFL with 147 INT return yards... His ratings do not reflect this.


#5. Pisa Tinoisamoa. A late Free Agent signing from STL. In 2008 he led the rams in tackles and finished 28th in the NFL. He is now the starting SLB for the Bears and currently not in the game. This addition will give the Bears the top LB corp in the league in my opinion. he's at least an 80 overall.

Im a die hard Bears fan so if anyone disagrees with my assessment please elaborate.

[TheRAIDERS20]

This was probably posted before but it's my first time seeing this -

Tom Brady's THP is 96.

Finally! They had him at 99 last year which was pathetic. Even with a year off I can't complain with his 97 rating. His THP really bugged me though.

Other than that though I think that the Patriots ratings are too high. We Welker a 91? James Sanders 87? Fred Taylor 82?

[X12Celtics3]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRAIDERS20

This was probably posted before but it's my first time seeing this - Tom Brady's THP is 96. Finally! They had him at 99 last year which was pathetic. Even with a year off I can't complain with his 97 rating. His THP really bugged me though. Other than that though I think that the Patriots ratings are too high. We Welker a 91? James Sanders 87? Fred Taylor 82?

Welker at 91 is perfect. Last year, while Randy Moss was dropping perfectly thrown deep balls left and right (he probably just wasn't motivated with Brady there), Welker was getting six to seven catches a game (I think he had eleven in one game) with very good yards after catch. He will never be a deep threat, but as far as underneath receivers go I can't name anyone better.

Fred Taylor's rating seems pretty good, but I don't watch the Jaguars so maybe its a little high. I'll have to wait and see.

James Sanders is definintely overrated. He showed promise two years ago, but last year he kind of sucked...

A couple of pages back I have a list of all of my Patriots roster comments. Its a very large post, maybe people are interested in reading it? Not one person responded to any of the comments in it...

[TheRAIDERS20]

Quote: Originally Posted by X12Celtics3

Welker at 91 is perfect. Last year, while Randy Moss was dropping perfectly thrown deep balls left and right (he probably just wasn't motivated with Brady there), Welker was getting six to seven catches a game (I think he had eleven in one game) with very good yards after catch. He will never be a deep threat, but as far as underneath receivers go I can't name anyone better. Fred Taylor's rating seems pretty good, but I don't watch the Jaguars so maybe its a little high. I'll have to wait and see. James Sanders is definintely overrated. He showed promise two years ago, but last year he kind of sucked... A couple of pages back I have a list of all of my Patriots roster comments. Its a very large post, maybe people are interested in reading it? Not one person responded to any of the comments in it...

Thanks for actually being able to provide a decent discussion about ratings instead of bashing me for not being a fan of your team. I'll go back and take a look at your post. That's what bugs me about just having one ratings thread, as posts get lost with ease.

[TheRAIDERS20]

Quote: Originally Posted by X12Celtics3

Things that I think about the Patriots Roster In no particular order... 1. Sammy Morris has been the best running back on the Patriots for the past couple of years, he should be rated at least an eighty. 2. Kevin Faulk and Laurence Maroney should switch ratings. Faulk has played consistantly well over his career as a third down back, while Maroney has been a bust up to this point (lets hope that he proves himself in an injury free season) 3. Ben Watson should not be rated at 80. He is a below average blocker and is a dropping machine in terms of catching. In his first few seasons he showed promise, but until he proves otherwise his rating should be about average. 4. David Thomas is not a full back. The Patriots do not have a fullback on their roster this year, and Madden should stop requiring teams to carry one. 5. I would like to see Matt Gutierrez on the Madden roster, he will probably be the third quarterback this season. 6. I would lower Bruschi's rating a little bit, at least his stamina. He is no longer an every down linebacker, and I'd like to see his stamina a little lower so that you see some of the younger guys occasionally. 7. James Sanders is not as good as Brandon Meriweather. Madden seems to think that he is better. 8. Here is where, in my opinion, there are some major mistakes made. First of all, Leigh Bodden should be around an eighty, maybe a 78-79, to start. He is rated at 76, behind the most overrated player on the Patriots: Darius Butler. Butler, a rookie, is rated higher than Leigh Bodden, second round pick Patrick Chung, and both rookie cornerbacks from last season (Weatley and Wilhite), making the second best cornerback on the roster. I don't know how this can be. This is how most people would assume that the Patriots depth chart at corner will be: 1. Shawn Springs 2. Leigh Bodden 3. Jonothan Wilhite 4. Terrence Wheatley 5. Darius Butler. Both the first and second as well as second and third could be switched around, but I don't think that Butler will crack the rotation of cornerbacks that much this year unless serius injures occur. THings that I think about former Patriots ratings 1. Daniel Graham's ratings is about perfect 2. Jabar Gaffney is maybe a little low, but still pretty accurate. 3. Chad Jackson is lucky to be at 56. He sucked 4. Lamont Jordan is underrated. He played very well for the Patriots last year, I think he should be in the high seventies. 5. Glad to see Adam Vinaieri's rating lowered. His missed a lot of easy kicks in the past few years, and he is playing in a dome. 6. Matt Cassel's rating is perfect for the start of the season. 7. I think that Vrable should be rated higher, he has the same rating as Bruschi, despite that fact that Bruschi looks like he is forty years old and Vrable has remained effective. 8. Heath Evan's rating is perfect. 9. Rudy Gay's rating is about perfect, from what I remember of him (which is, admittedly, not much). 10. Asante Samuel's rating is perfect. 11. Deion Branch's rating is about perfect, if not a little bit high. So, who's up for reading a giant wall of text?

I agree with just about all of it. I think Cassel was definitely a product of the great system in New England, but his rating is ok for now. I would expect it to drop dramatically when the season starts, as KC is just God-awful. Also, after many painful years with Lamont Jordan, I really think his rating is perfect. He's always hurt, and not much of a hard worker in the offseason.

You've inspired me to get out my Raiders likes/dislikes post in this thread. Thanks!

[TheRAIDERS20]

Raiders Impressions (Yes I realize the Raiders ratings came out a few weeks ago).

1. JaMarcus Russell's THA is too low, so low that it's the same as McFadden's. I won't get into detail cause I've already done so two other times here.

2. Lorenzo Neal. Too high in my opinion. Is he a great FB? Yes. Is he a 91? I don't think so at his age, but I hope he performs well.

3. Derrick Burgess - 87. Wayyyy to high. This guy is a bum who can't play the run at all, and missed just about the entire season last year with a strained tricep.

4. Zach Miller = Perfect

5. O-Line - Gallery is a little low, as he's been playing at a near Pro Bowl level (according to the media) since his switch to LG. Also, Cooper Carlisle is a little high.

6. RBs - DMac is a little low, but he didn't perform last year, so I guess it's fair. Fargas is too high at 79. Most people in Oakland agree he's a bum with a low YPC and needs to be traded. I also think that Michael Bush is a little low at 75, but I can deal.

7. Trevor Scott - 64. Way too low considering he led all rookies in sacks last year. I guess I wouldn't be too upset if he didn't have more sacks in less than a 1/3 of the snaps that Chris Long (82) did.

8. WR - Johnnie Lee Higgins and Chaz Schilens are too low IMO. Do I think that they should be in the high 70s? Not at all. But I do feel that Chaz at a 64 and Johnnie at a 69 are way to low for these guys. They were the two best receivers on a weak Oakland squad last year. I know they aren't great, but that's a little disrespectful.

9. Tommy Kelly - Too high at 80. What did he do last year? Nothing. He got a big contract and hasn't performed since.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRAIDERS20

Raiders Impressions (Yes I realize the Raiders ratings came out a few weeks ago). 1. JaMarcus Russell's THA is too low, so low that it's the same as McFadden's. I won't get into detail cause I've already done so two other times here. That's pretty sad lol 2. Lorenzo Neal. Too high in my opinion. Is he a great FB? Yes. Is he a 91? I don't think so at his age, but I hope he performs well. He's not much as far as running and catching goes, but he's definitely the best blocking fullback in football, so as long as they got that part of his game right, I don't really care what his overall is. 3. Derrick Burgess - 87. Wayyyy to high. This guy is a bum who can't play the run at all, and missed just about the entire season last year with a strained tricep. I agree, he should definitely be good against the pass but bad against the run. 4. Zach Miller = Perfect 5. O-Line - Gallery is a little low, as he's been playing at a near Pro Bowl level (according to the media) since his switch to LG. Also, Cooper Carlisle is a little high. 6. RBs - DMac is a little low, but he didn't perform last year, so I guess it's fair. Fargas is too high at 79. Most people in Oakland agree he's a bum with a low YPC and needs to be traded. I also think that Michael Bush is a little low at 75, but I can deal. I think the running backs are pretty good overall wise. I'd like to see what their potential is. 7. Trevor Scott - 64. Way too low considering he led all rookies in sacks last year. I guess I wouldn't be too upset if he didn't have more sacks in less than a 1/3 of the snaps that Chris Long (82) did. 8. WR - Johnnie Lee Higgins and Chaz Schilens are too low IMO. Do I think that they should be in the high 70s? Not at all. But I do feel that Chaz at a 64 and Johnnie at a 69 are way to low for these guys. They were the two best receivers on a weak Oakland squad last year. I know they aren't great, but that's a little disrespectful. I've honestly never even heard of Chaz lol. But Johnnie is definitely a big play kind of guy, I'd say at about a 72/73 overall but with the ability to make big plays. 9. Tommy Kelly - Too high at 80. What did he do last year? Nothing. He got a big contract and hasn't performed since.

Agreed.

[X12Celtics3]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRAIDERS20

Raiders Impressions (Yes I realize the Raiders ratings came out a few weeks ago). 1. JaMarcus Russell's THA is too low, so low that it's the same as McFadden's. I won't get into detail cause I've already done so two other times here. What they should do is lower McFadden's rating, not raise Russell's... 2. Lorenzo Neal. Too high in my opinion. Is he a great FB? Yes. Is he a 91? I don't think so at his age, but I hope he performs well. It depends on what you want in a FB. As a blocker, I'd say he is still one of the best in the league. 3. Derrick Burgess - 87. Wayyyy to high. This guy is a bum who can't play the run at all, and missed just about the entire season last year with a strained tricep. What do you think of the rumors of trading him to the Pats? They were from a while back, but he is still holding out isn't he? 4. Zach Miller = Perfect 5. O-Line - Gallery is a little low, as he's been playing at a near Pro Bowl level (according to the media) since his switch to LG. Also, Cooper Carlisle is a little high. 6. RBs - DMac is a little low, but he didn't perform last year, so I guess it's fair. Fargas is too high at 79. Most people in Oakland agree he's a bum with a low YPC and needs to be traded. I also think that Michael Bush is a little low at 75, but I can deal. Michael Bush is my favorite Raider aside from the CB whose name I can't spell to save my life, so I agree. 7. Trevor Scott - 64. Way too low considering he led all rookies in sacks last year. I guess I wouldn't be too upset if he didn't have more sacks in less than a 1/3 of the snaps that Chris Long (82) did. 8. WR - Johnnie Lee Higgins and Chaz Schilens are too low IMO. Do I think that they should be in the high 70s? Not at all. But I do feel that Chaz at a 64 and Johnnie at a 69 are way to low for these guys. They were the two best receivers on a weak Oakland squad last year. I know they aren't great, but that's a little disrespectful. 9. Tommy Kelly - Too high at 80. What did he do last year? Nothing. He got a big contract and hasn't performed since.

I guess to post this I need text outside of the quote box. So here it is....

[sixone]

For Throw Accuracy Short/Mid/Deep what are the yard ranges? For example, is Short 0-15 yds, Mid 16-30yds, Deep 30+yds?