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Old 07-30-2009, 05:26 AM   #1011 (permalink)
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I have a question about assigning players to FB. Colts never carry a true FB, but madden will always label a player FB. Why?

This year, they labeled Jacob Tamme as FB for the Colts, but he's a pass catching TE. He'll propably play the same roll as Clark, and line up in the slot every once in a while. He shouldnt be labeled as FB and I dont like players playing out of position.

If Madden has to label someone FB, I'd rather it be Mike Hart. Madden did the same thing with 3rd string running back James Mungro a few years back. I rarely use a FB, just like the Colts, but there are some singleback formations that you can change the personal package and get FB in the singleback spot. At least this way, I can get a 3rd string running back into the game without making a permanent substitution.
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:28 AM   #1012 (permalink)
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I have a question about assigning players to FB. Colts never carry a true FB, but madden will always label a player FB. Why?

This year, they labeled Jacob Tamme as FB for the Colts, but he's a pass catching TE. He'll propably play the same roll as Clark, and line up in the slot every once in a while. He shouldnt be labeled as FB and I dont like players playing out of position.

If Madden has to label someone FB, I'd rather it be Mike Hart. Madden did the same thing with 3rd string running back James Mungro a few years back. I rarely use a FB, just like the Colts, but there are some singleback formations that you can change the personal package and get FB in the singleback spot. At least this way, I can get a 3rd string running back into the game without making a permanent substitution.
Just something messy to do with CPU coding and formula's for rosters.

Expect it to be changed next year.


And as for Anthony Gonzalez. Well. 75 does seem harsh, with guys like Crabtree getting rated higher.

Its his 3rd year this year. Expect a breakout one and he'll be rated about 85 by seasons end IMO.
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:54 AM   #1013 (permalink)
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off the top of my head.

T.O. - too strong, i assume his release rating is high too. he really struggled with press coverage last year.
Agreed.

Lynch - should be more agile, a very quick-twitch player.
Agreed.

stroud - i feel he should be lower... but idk why.
Maybe a 90 if any lower, he's a stud.

schobel - definitely should be lower, when was the last time he was an impact player?
He wasn't healthy last year and only played 5 games, but the season before that, he had 6.5 sacks despite being double teamed on literally every play, and had 14 and 12 the two years before that even though they didn't have anyone else on the line to keep offensive lines from doubling him.

mcgee - too low, definitely a good corner, 86 would be perfect. although he did struggle with injuries last year
I don't know. He's not really much of a shutdown corner. He's a good #2 in my opinion.

mckelvin - i can has speed? 93ish?
Agreed.

youboty - played lights out until his injury. 67-71ish.
He's lucky to have a 62. Corner will probably get more playing time than him this year, especially after how bad he's been doing at training camp so far.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:12 AM   #1014 (permalink)
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Did EA miss Steve Johnson (WR)?? As a rookie last year, (7th round pick) he ended up with 10 catches for 102 yards and 2 TDs. Yet Justin Jenkins made the roster, and he has zero catches in his entire career.

Kind of funny. Johnson figures to be the 4th receiver on the team maybe (depending on health) and Jenkins will be special teams player at best.

I know, I know - he'll be in a roster update...but I'm not sure if I'll have internet at home when this game comes out so that sucks.

Also, Brad Butler is moving to RT this year which is what he played in college. Wood and Levitre will play gaurd and Hangartner is in at C.

Most of the ratings look ok though. It would be nice to see McKelvin with a little more speed but I'm not sure how the stretched ratings effect that.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:17 PM   #1015 (permalink)
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I have a question about assigning players to FB. Colts never carry a true FB, but madden will always label a player FB. Why?

This year, they labeled Jacob Tamme as FB for the Colts, but he's a pass catching TE. He'll propably play the same roll as Clark, and line up in the slot every once in a while. He shouldnt be labeled as FB and I dont like players playing out of position.

If Madden has to label someone FB, I'd rather it be Mike Hart. Madden did the same thing with 3rd string running back James Mungro a few years back. I rarely use a FB, just like the Colts, but there are some singleback formations that you can change the personal package and get FB in the singleback spot. At least this way, I can get a 3rd string running back into the game without making a permanent substitution.
I agree with you on this. I noticed the Patriots have pass catching TE Dave Thomas listed as their fullback. He played TE at UT in college, was drafted as a TE, has played TE in his first 3 seasons, and is listed as a TE on the Patriots website.

I also wish Madden would recognize 3-4 teams since there are more and more teams running that scheme these days. It would be nice if the AI recognized NT as a position and not just group them as DTs. Too often in my franchises do I see teams that run a 3-4 go with a guy like Chuck Darby at NT with a set of 250 lb. DE's next to him. That's just not right.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:25 PM   #1016 (permalink)
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HOW THE HELL IS LITO A 77? SHELDON BROWN IS BETTER THAN HIM? SINCE WHEN? BS!
Really sad that you have such a crush on the always has been overrated Lito Sheppard. He was never as good as Sheldon.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:59 PM   #1017 (permalink)
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I'm not exactly sure what else they use, but I would assume they use other factors other than just the 40 time, considering the 40 time isn't always a true measure of football speed. I'm pretty sure Anquan Boldin ran like a 4.78 and I think we all know he's faster than that.
Whats odd tho is that Brian Leonard when given the chance for the Rams showed off the 4.49 speed against the Cardinals a few years back (rookie season) and then he had a shoulder injury the past 2 seasons. If a guy runs a 4.49 theres no way he should have only a 78 speed. I guess i will have to make some tweaks to some ratings once i get the game.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:01 PM   #1018 (permalink)
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Things that I think about the Patriots Roster
In no particular order...
1. Sammy Morris has been the best running back on the Patriots for the past couple of years, he should be rated at least an eighty.

2. Kevin Faulk and Laurence Maroney should switch ratings. Faulk has played consistantly well over his career as a third down back, while Maroney has been a bust up to this point (lets hope that he proves himself in an injury free season)

3. Ben Watson should not be rated at 80. He is a below average blocker and is a dropping machine in terms of catching. In his first few seasons he showed promise, but until he proves otherwise his rating should be about average.

4. David Thomas is not a full back. The Patriots do not have a fullback on their roster this year, and Madden should stop requiring teams to carry one.

5. I would like to see Matt Gutierrez on the Madden roster, he will probably be the third quarterback this season.

6. I would lower Bruschi's rating a little bit, at least his stamina. He is no longer an every down linebacker, and I'd like to see his stamina a little lower so that you see some of the younger guys occasionally.

7. James Sanders is not as good as Brandon Meriweather. Madden seems to think that he is better.

8. Here is where, in my opinion, there are some major mistakes made. First of all, Leigh Bodden should be around an eighty, maybe a 78-79, to start. He is rated at 76, behind the most overrated player on the Patriots: Darius Butler. Butler, a rookie, is rated higher than Leigh Bodden, second round pick Patrick Chung, and both rookie cornerbacks from last season (Weatley and Wilhite), making the second best cornerback on the roster. I don't know how this can be. This is how most people would assume that the Patriots depth chart at corner will be:
1. Shawn Springs
2. Leigh Bodden
3. Jonothan Wilhite
4. Terrence Wheatley
5. Darius Butler.

Both the first and second as well as second and third could be switched around, but I don't think that Butler will crack the rotation of cornerbacks that much this year unless serius injures occur.

THings that I think about former Patriots ratings
1. Daniel Graham's ratings is about perfect
2. Jabar Gaffney is maybe a little low, but still pretty accurate.
3. Chad Jackson is lucky to be at 56. He sucked
4. Lamont Jordan is underrated. He played very well for the Patriots last year, I think he should be in the high seventies.
5. Glad to see Adam Vinaieri's rating lowered. His missed a lot of easy kicks in the past few years, and he is playing in a dome.
6. Matt Cassel's rating is perfect for the start of the season.
7. I think that Vrable should be rated higher, he has the same rating as Bruschi, despite that fact that Bruschi looks like he is forty years old and Vrable has remained effective.
8. Heath Evan's rating is perfect.
9. Rudy Gay's rating is about perfect, from what I remember of him (which is, admittedly, not much).
10. Asante Samuel's rating is perfect.
11. Deion Branch's rating is about perfect, if not a little bit high.

So, who's up for reading a giant wall of text?
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:09 PM   #1019 (permalink)
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Whats odd tho is that Brian Leonard when given the chance for the Rams showed off the 4.49 speed against the Cardinals a few years back (rookie season) and then he had a shoulder injury the past 2 seasons. If a guy runs a 4.49 theres no way he should have only a 78 speed. I guess i will have to make some tweaks to some ratings once i get the game.
Combine speed doesn't translate to football speed and Leonard is not a true RB
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:32 PM   #1020 (permalink)
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Bengals RB Brian Leonard 78 speed with 82 acceleration? How is that possible? He ran a 4.49 40 yard dash at the combine a few years back. Knowshon Moreno has speed of 86 and ran a 4.62 40 yard dash at this years combine.

Also RB Bernard Scott for the Bengals has 89 speed with 94 acceleration but he ran a 4.56 40 yard dash.

Do they even go by the 40 yard dash when making the ratings?

Could some explain this?
Game speed is what matters. But, I think Knowshon should have 83-84 SPD, he's really not all that fast. Bernard Scott is about right. That man is really gifted and I was surprised by his slow 40. Didn't Brian Leonard put on weight? idk, I would put him at 82 speed.
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