Madden 10 Pat White = Madden 04 Mike Vick?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Donny_Moore

I just read another report saying that Pat White might be the next piece in the Wildcat puzzle, meaning he might be the next big thing for a team like Miami who runs a lot of Wildcat.

First, let me say that I hereby allow myself to interpret Donny's mentions of the Wildcat as the first official confirmation that the celebrated formation will be included in Madden 10.

Thank you, Madden Team! Design and test the Wildcat with care.

Second, rookie evaluation is fun and necessary. I mean, seriously, how have I've gotten this excited for the NFL Combine? I'm recording days of coverage. See what the NFL Network has done to me?

There is no off-season. There isn't even an off-season for Madden. I was convinced that I'd take a few months off from Operation Sports. And here I am. In February. Reading about Pat White. And loving every second of it!

The NFL Network begins its NFL Combine coverage on Friday. Gruden will be there as an analyst. That should be entertaining.

Thanks for the post, Donny!

[adembroski]

Completion percentage is a HORRIBLE measure of accuracy. The idea that anyone uses it for that purpose boggles my mind.

You want a stat that indicates a QBs accuracy? Look at his receiver's run-after-catch. An accurate QB hits his guys in stride. Receivers who catch balls in stride gain yardage after the catch.

Completion percentage actually says more about a QBs field vision and functional intelligence than his accuracy, and those are things White's not really questioned on.

Most scouts are questioning his accuracy, and I see mixed reports on his arm. I've never personally seen the guy play, but I do know that you tend to get that with guys who either have great throwing range and poor velocity or vica virca. So my assumption is the guy can probably throw it a country mile but can't put a 15 yard out on a rope, or the other way around. Jeff Garcia's a good example... doesn't go deep great, but he'll throw those sidelines like lasers.

Draft countdown has him listed at a 4.5, but those are usually estimates before the combine. That's good speed for a QB (Steve Young ran a 4.5), but just decent at WR. I don't think, considering his size and running style, he's a great RB prospect either way.

[Cryolemon]

Quote: Originally Posted by swill43507

If I drafted him I would use him the way the Steelers used Kordell Stewart in his rookie year. He'd be "Slash" part 2. I use him as a part-time reciever, part-time running back,and I would use him a qb on special running plays,..because he has amazing speed and athletic ability.

Same here.

[Chessboxer1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Guillotine 1

Ok, but does that make him inaccurate? I mean, I'm not trying to be difficult but didn't they say the same thing about Colt Brennen? It seems like unless you go to Quarterback University and recieve a masters in passitology...you can't get guys to be over 87 accuracy...lol I hear you though, you make a good point.

colt brennen and pat white played completely different styles of football. it's not a race issue, pat white is just a better runner pure in simple. from what i hear he did well in the senior bowl all week and during the game so maybe he is a better passer than we give him credit for but if he was really any type of decent passer he would be the #1 pick like vick was.

and btw, at west virginia they ran the spread OPTION, different than the offense they ran at hawaii. the careers of players like alex smith, and vince young isn't helping his draft stock either.

[Disqo]

Its going to be fun playing people that are going to cheese, when using Pat White

[TheWatcher]

If Pat White ever takes a starting snap at QB, I'd be shocked.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgkibbles

Spread numbers are always inflated. As long as you have a functioning arm you can complete 60% of your passes in that system so that doesn't make Pat White accurate.

True , but seeing Pat White play and make certain throws can determine that. Pat White is accurate, and what hurts him is that fact that he runs a 4.2.

Now they feel he should be a WR of HB. The guy is fast and elusive , but he can pass I watched him play and the kid can throw that ball very nicely.

He is a huge sleeper and the team that gets him better wake up and give him a legitimate shot for starting QB.

Here are some tough throws he made in WVU last reg season game in 08

[Exonerated]

Lol. Pat White aint gonna run a 4.2 lol.

He's not Mike Vick.

*Vick for reinstatement in madden 10*

Anywho. I dont see why White cannot play qb in the league. Quarterbacking isn't just about passing, its about rushing too. ITs not the passingback. its the quarterback.

I also question his throw velocity, not his throw distance though. May struggle to read coverages like Vick. But won't have the cannon or the pure elusiveness to make up for it.

White may be a decent sleeper for franchise mode.

[LBzrule]

Quote: Originally Posted by Donny_Moore

Just got done creating Mr. Pat White from West Virginia and let me tell you, he is going to be a fun Madden 10 QB / HB / WR. Right now, everything I'm reading has him trying to stay at Quarterback in the NFL. He wants to be drafted as a QB. How long before they convert him to a HB or WR, who knows. I just read another report saying that Pat White might be the next piece in the Wildcat puzzle, meaning he might be the next big thing for a team like Miami who runs a lot of Wildcat. Will he be rated as good as Mike Vick in certain areas like Speed and Elusiveness? No, probably not. Vick was still a different type of animal. Whoops, sorry guys, poor choice of words....too soon? But Pat White is still going to be nice - Speed, Elusive, Nice Arm Strength, great running abilities, Juke, Spin, etc. And yes, his throw accuracy will certainly hold him back from being some sort of monster in the game - he's not a pure passer type of QB by any means. Just wanted you guys to get a heads up, Pat White is looking like a big time Madden 10 sleeper! - Donny PS - Creating the rookies is one of my favorite "tasks " of the year. I always know these rookie ratings are one of the most contraversial things in the world of player ratings, because these guys haven't proven it on the NFL field quite yet....What's cool is that this is probably the closest thing to an NFL scout before the draft! Bet those guys do similar things, break down each and every player and grade him numerically per category....bet we go deeper with our Madden ratings!

Cool I guess, but what I want to know is what have you guys done with players like Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, James Harrison and Lamar Woodly, DeMarcus Ware, Terrell Suggs, Albert Haynesworth, Chris Jenkins, Darnell Dockett, Ray Lewis, Haloti Ngata, Justin Tuck, Joey Porter. I've seen lots of comments about how offensive players are beast now, with speed, ect. But I have heard next to nothing about how the tweaking has changed the defensive players and how they will impact 2010.

[youALREADYknow]

Quote: Originally Posted by Exonerated

Lol. Pat White aint gonna run a 4.2 lol. He's not Mike Vick. *Vick for reinstatement in madden 10* Anywho. I dont see why White cannot play qb in the league. Quarterbacking isn't just about passing, its about rushing too. ITs not the passingback. its the quarterback. I also question his throw velocity, not his throw distance though. May struggle to read coverages like Vick. But won't have the cannon or the pure elusiveness to make up for it. White may be a decent sleeper for franchise mode.

Pat White is an average NFL passing prospect, but an excellent mobile QB prospect. His arm is clearly good enough to succeed in the NFL if he's making intelligent decisions and he's made intelligent decisions throughout his college career.

Having said that, with Madden's new and improved ratings system I can't see him being rated anything higher than 85 THP and 75 THA. He's not incredibly accurate from sideline to sideline, doesn't typically hit receivers in stride on bullet passes, but throws a decent deep ball. I've seen plenty of Pat White games to know he can be a NFL QB if guys like Jason Campbell can get starting jobs after showing far less ability at the QB position in college.