IAN -- Two simple ways to improve on passing

[Bballplaya72]

Ian I posted this earlier, just hoping to get your opinion on it.

I have been thinking of a few ways to make the passing game and pocket better. My two ideas:

To throw the ball away in the vicinity of the receiver when you're in the pocket, you would hold left trigger and press the corresponding button to throw the ball away and not get called for grounding.

Also, how many times do we go to pass to somebody that we think is open, only at the last second see the defender. Well, how about say you press X, or whatever receiver button and at the last second see a defender in zone coverage on him. What if you double tapped X or w/e button and your QB would kind of pump fake, going to throw the ball only to see at the last second a defender is there and pull the ball back.

I think both of these suggestions could help improve the passing game and make the game a bit more realistic.

Thoughts?

[Bballplaya72]

Can I get a damn response lol

[BezO]

I dig both of these. I've recommended the throw away function before, but the pump fake to a specific receiver with a double tap is also a very good idea.

[SoxFan01605]

I agree. To add on the double tap idea, I'd like to see maybe a greater risk for the ball slipping out if you try and pull back the initial attempt too late. Nothing crazy, just a slight increase in probability, especially if being hit while in this animation. Also on throwaways, I still want the basic one left in. That way if you panic or are in a rush the chance for grounding is still a threat. I like you. Great ideas!

[DocHolliday]

Ehhh. C+ on ideas.

One has already been implemented in "that other game", and the other one with throwing the ball away, who really cares.

A pocket and DEs that get up field like real people would be a start for this game.

[ImagiNationFreak]

I don't think I ever threw the ball away in any football game. Except maybe in a practice game to see what buttons do what.

The pump fake in "the other game" is perfect. You pump fake by double tapping the button of the receiver you want to throw it to. It sometimes even screws with the D and makes them go to that receiver and opens up the other receiver. I can't believe Madden does not have this feature already. It's basic.

[Ian_Cummings_EA]

Quote: Originally Posted by ImagiNationFreak

The pump fake in "the other game" is perfect. You pump fake by double tapping the button of the receiver you want to throw it to. It sometimes even screws with the D and makes them go to that receiver and opens up the other receiver. I can't believe Madden does not have this feature already. It's basic.

I disagree with you here - I personally don't believe the double tap pump fake is a good mechanic. There are NUMEROUS times in 2k when I've tapped the button in a haste since I'm about to get sacked and ended up pump faking.

I've thought about changing it up this year to somehow make it directional...but I haven't decided on a mechanic. Something like LT + the button is kind of complicated you know? It's not bad...but it's not great. Did any of you play NCAA last year? What did you think about the R-stick directional pump fake?

As for the OP's idea of the receiver-based throw away, that seems just a bit too complex to me my man...mainly since it's probably not the best idea to add complexity to a control that no one really uses anyway. I'd rather just make throw-away do that automatically based on the AWR of your QB instead of making it a user-controlled thing. Thoughts on that?

[DrUrsus]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

I disagree with you here - I personally don't believe the double tap pump fake is a good mechanic. There are NUMEROUS times in 2k when I've tapped the button in a haste since I'm about to get sacked and ended up pump faking. As for the OP's idea of the receiver-based throw away, that seems just a bit too complex to me my man...mainly since it's probably not the best idea to add complexity to a control that no one really uses anyway. I'd rather just make throw-away do that automatically based on the AWR of your QB instead of making it a user-controlled thing. Thoughts on that?

I agree with both of these points whole heartedly.

[drae2]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

I disagree with you here - I personally don't believe the double tap pump fake is a good mechanic. There are NUMEROUS times in 2k when I've tapped the button in a haste since I'm about to get sacked and ended up pump faking. I've thought about changing it up this year to somehow make it directional...but I haven't decided on a mechanic. Something like LT + the button is kind of complicated you know? It's not bad...but it's not great. Did any of you play NCAA last year? What did you think about the R-stick directional pump fake? As for the OP's idea of the receiver-based throw away, that seems just a bit too complex to me my man...mainly since it's probably not the best idea to add complexity to a control that no one really uses anyway. I'd rather just make throw-away do that automatically based on the AWR of your QB instead of making it a user-controlled thing. Thoughts on that?

Ian, I totally agree with you on the pump fake. I was playing that other, other game last night, acidently pump faked, got sacked, fumble, and ended up losing the game (doh!). To me, if you could somehow come up with a version of the read and lead feature from Fever, that would improve the passing to me. What do you think on that feature?

[ImagiNationFreak]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

I disagree with you here - I personally don't believe the double tap pump fake is a good mechanic. There are NUMEROUS times in 2k when I've tapped the button in a haste since I'm about to get sacked and ended up pump faking.

Your right, I didn't think about that. Plus they actually pump fake a little to slow which causes you to get sacked easier. How about holding down the R1 button then double tapping the button of the receiver you wanna throw the ball to, so you have a choice of who you wanna pump fake to?