What presentaion aspects do you want to see in Madden 2010?

[wookie48]

Post from watcher in another thread. I moved it becasue it was good and needed to be here.


TV Football broadcasts use what we would call "cutscenes" every game, all game long. I don't want them to necessarily be canned like Madden 06 and 07, but the game camera's should be able to quickly recognize and capture scenarios that would take over the screen. Where Madden 09 failed is in how the camera's picked up moments. You'd make a big play and the camera would start drifting away from the field, or it would take this awful zoomed out shot, or worse this shot where all you see is grass and the one player in this overhead kinda shot. That ain't broadcast quality. Players need to be featured properly by the camera.

I'm not talking about doing it like Madden 06 and 07 where you had cutscenes for guys signaling a first down with their arm. A simple camera switch should be able to capture that in a large shot without it being some canned experience.

I'm talking about like what you pointed out Rashad: important moments and moments that add life to the game. Madden doesn't have them and that's why their is so much negative opinion about the presentation, and also why "beyond broadcast" fell WAY shy.

A mix of what's done in Head Coach (minus the movie-like zooming and background black/white shots of the crowd), 2K5's post play, and the large shots of Madden 09's post play (which we didn't get even close to enough of) and we'd finally have a winner.

[SoxFan01605]

You know, I would love to see the challenge system expanded. I love 2Ks system, but I'd expand on that. It would be awesome to go into the challenge system and not only choose the specific challange you want to make, but also have your staff (who generally let the HC know what his chances are anyway) give a percentage. So for example, you want to challenge a ball spot and you see you have a 63% chance of winning based on your own booth's judgement. It could take into account your coaching staff's skill (maybe a specific rating, or tie it to another rating, like knowledge) in the decision.

I would also like to see variable refs (tendencies to overturn/uphold more plays, call more/less penalties, etc) which could also be calculated into this decision. Lastly, while the announcers are discussing their take on the particular challenge, they could mention whether or not the particular crew is more or less likely to overturn a play and what your HC's percentage is when it comes to winning challenges (coupled with a nice stat overlay, of course). To extend the presentation of this even further, maybe during the halftime or post-game shows (HINT HINT IAN) the guys could discuss how the outcome of the challenge (and refs calls in gneral) has effected the game (if at all). Maybe it was a bad call that screwed you, or a great decision to overturn a potentially backbreaking call.

Anyway, I know that's terribly detailed, but THAT's what I'd love in terms presentation.

[AlexBrady]

Have the player appear on screen, have him announce his own name and the college he attended in the early stages of the game. Similar to Sunday Night Football on NBC.

[jeb68]

If EA was smart, they would just try to mimic 2k5 to a T. Give us meaningful highlights during the game, at halftime, and finally at the end of the game. Also, give us a weekly Spotscenter like 2k5. 2k5 was so ahead of its time. I haven't bought Madden for years and will not until they add these elements into it.

[ImagiNationFreak]

Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBrady

Have the player appear on screen, have him announce his own name and the college he attended in the early stages of the game. Similar to Sunday Night Football on NBC.

Now that would be awesome.

[poopie]

i hope they change the int camera.i hate the way everything slows down and does that matrix spin.thats so played out.

[Cusefan]

ok Ian, i hope you and everyone at EA is listening to these comments. I think it is fair to say Everyone wants a realistic looking broadcast feel to the game.

No Excuses for Madden 2010, please!!!

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[alliance4g63]

Quote: Originally Posted by wookie48

Like what? What in the presentation of 2k5 made it so good? I know what it had but your post just says, "go watch something" when if I was a developer I am not gonna watch anything my FORMER competitor produced. If I wa an EA developer I would want to make my own brand and create my own wow effect instead of copying becasue lets face it, if EA copied 2k then that would only enforce the fact that 2k was better. I as a developer would have more interest in protecting the companies image than to EVER resort ot copying a FORMER competitor. So again, what presentation aspect would make madden amazing? Go-

But at this point, what other choice do they have? They would just be doing what everyone else is saying anyway. I can understand taking offense when you are actually competing with the competition but they aren't doing that these days are they?

The only reason so many mention "copy 2k5" is because they haven't shown us they have the ability to do it themselves, which is sad. We are stuck with one game, ONE GAME! So if they took away the best(presentation wise), they damn better atleast match what the competition offered.

Look at other genres, look how great games like Bioshock, Oblivion, Halo, Gears and Forza have pushed their genre forward. Look at where all other sport sims are these days. And then come back and look at football. It's a sad and laughable pill to swallow.

Presentation:
-For the love of God, please get rid of those huge helmets and fireworks. The only time I've seen anything like that was the Superbowl. Atleast save it for then.

Add
-Stadium personality(including):
dynamic crowds, use of 5.1 surround sound, terrible towels, mascot specific sounds upon good first downs or touchdowns, the 12th man, player specific chants (Dueeeeccce!), Boos and cheers specific to what is happening on the field, THE WAVE!

That is what I need to start to enjoy playing Madden again. I may add more later. Peace.

[ImagiNationFreak]

Yes. Presentation is what Madden is missing. Nowadays presentation is key.

EA already has a football game, they just need to bring it to life.