Requesting feedback on 5-step drop animation

[Ian_Cummings_EA]

To provide a little background - one of our stuntmen at the last shoot was also a former QB in college. He volunteered to re-do our default QB drop animation(s). I figured I'd upload one and get your feedback. What do you think?

- Look good?
- Adjust slightly?
- Re-capture?


New 5 step drop? from The Future on Vimeo.

[rgiles36]

I think it's definitely better than what is in place now. If I had to critique it, I would say that the dropback looks a little 'tight' (like maybe it should be loosened up a bit if that makes sense).

[LBzrule]

Here is my thing. This is good for some QB's, but for others get him to slow down a little bit. Joe Flacco for instance does not drop back that fast, neither does Pennington, Brady, Palmer, Roethlisburger and many others. His drop looked great for Garcia, McNabb and some others, but for others it looks too fast. So I would say just get him to drop at different speeds.

[burne]

How tall is he? His strides do look kinda short and... stumpy. I don't know. Any chance you could attach the data from that shoot to a character model and upload the video? It'd be easier to tell if he wasn't wearing all black and if it wasn't from that angle.

[uiucjpo]

I say recapture. I think there's too much arm swinging going on. Tom Brady shows you how to do it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuAe-9ujq8

[tmulk]

So what will happen when I step to the left, or right, or up before he completes his drop? Will it be like in past versions where the QB will get caught up and do a disco spin? Will he throw off his back foot while jumping if I see the slant is open and throw it after 3 steps?



By the way, much respect. Has this ever been done before? Has any videogame ever given the users the ability to give feedback the way you have this year?

[Keith121212]

Recapture this animation please if you could. It would be nice if you had him mimic different QB drops. Not specific ones like Donovan McNabb's specifically but have him do a slow 5 step drop and then a fast one. Then have him do a textbook 5 step drop and then one like he's doing

[adub88]

That was too choppy and fast IMO. The QB is holding the ball way too low. As mentioned, take a look at guys like Brady, P. Manning, both definitely don't drop back that fast.

[Ian_Cummings_EA]

Quote: Originally Posted by tmulk

So what will happen when I step to the left, or right, or up before he completes his drop? Will it be like in past versions where the QB will get caught up and do a disco spin? Will he throw off his back foot while jumping if I see the slant is open and throw it after 3 steps?

Since this is all hypothetical (i.e. it's not in the game yet), I don't have an answer. What do you think should happen in those cases? Should you even be able to "break out" of the drop with d-pad movement?

Quote:

By the way, much respect. Has this ever been done before? Has any videogame ever given the users the ability to give feedback the way you have this year?

Thanks much. It definitely hasn't been done within EA before...not sure about other games.

[Keith121212]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian Cummings

What do you think should happen in those cases? Should you even be able to "break out" of the drop with d-pad movement?

You should be able to break out of the drop but it should be done realistically. Remove the throwing off his back foot while spinning animation and put in several animations that look realistic. At least thats my suggestion for that.