More info on CPU Sliders (from EA)

[adembroski]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFuture15

There still are Special Teams sliders...you might have missed the post but I put up a screenshot (in my response to Nza).

ah, ok cool.

[Ian_Cummings_EA]

Quote: Originally Posted by bad_philanthropy

Does the QB accuracy slider in Madden also affect throw power, that was a big problem with the slider in NCAA the slider had less to do with affecting accuracy and more to do with affecting throw power.

Just checked in code where the slider gets applied:

 
case MaddenFootballAbilities::ID_THROWPWR:
aiMod = 0.0;

So no, the throw power rating does not get affected.

[ab2c4]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ram209

In other news Honda and Toyota are coming out with cars that no longer have AC/Heaters. The car will adjust the temperature inside depending on what the temperature outside is! We will no longer be able to adjust the temperature to our liking the car will decide. We went from having DUAL climate control heated and cooled passenger seats to the car will decide. Looks like EA did the same, instead of giving us more options to fine tune gameplay to OUR LIKING, the CPU will decide for you. Wow this is getting to be really bad, actually this FLAT OUT SUCKS!!!!!!!! PS........ Toyota and Honda will still have AC/Heaters in their cars, thank god these company's are not that stu...

Excellent post. I hope EA reads this and if they haven't figured it out already, gotten the message as to what we want (they shouldn't have the right to decide what they want us to have).

[rp71284]

Quote: Originally Posted by hillbilly_fire

I have a hard time believing that. If Ian and Phil didn't care, they would not be posting on these boards. Really, they have zero incentive financial wise to be here. You said it yourself, it will sell like hot cakes. The reason they're here is because they take pride in their work. Unfortunately, that doesn't always translate into success because the machine(EA) is more powerful than the cog(Ian).

I hate to go down this road, but do you honestly think that they get $0 reimbursement for all the time they spend on these boards? I'm not being rude, just voicing my opinion.

It's like people who administer suverys. They get feedback from people by giving them information & asking questions.

I'm not trying to say they don't care, because it's pretty obvious they do. It's just annoying seeing the umpteenth post saying the same thing. (Not saying the person I quoted is doing that; it just kinda was on the same page)

[DrUrsus]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ram209

In other news Honda and Toyota are coming out with cars that no longer have AC/Heaters. The car will adjust the temperature inside depending on what the temperature outside is! We will no longer be able to adjust the temperature to our liking the car will decide. We went from having DUAL climate control heated and cooled passenger seats to the car will decide. Looks like EA did the same, instead of giving us more options to fine tune gameplay to OUR LIKING, the CPU will decide for you. Wow this is getting to be really bad, actually this FLAT OUT SUCKS!!!!!!!! PS........ Toyota and Honda will still have AC/Heaters in their cars, thank god these company's are not that stu...

That's a pretty good analogy.

[adembroski]

What's really disappointing is that these sliders, if we had them for both sides, would have been infinitely better than the old ones overall. Being able to adjust reaction time vs. the run and reaction time vs. the pass independently for the CPU would be awesome.

[DrUrsus]

Quote: Originally Posted by adembroski

I know some people have talked about CPU Run Block and HUM Break Block being redundant, but they are not. The Run Block slider of old affected the amount of push the line got, while Break Block affected how well people got off of a block. We no longer have the ability to adjust how much push the CPU gets off the snap, and that's a very big deal. Same thing with pass blocking... a higher pass block rating would help maintain a more realistic pocket, while Break Block could help offset the fact that setting it like that would give the CPU more time. CPU QB Accuracy, WR Catching, RB Ability, Awareness, and Knockdowns cannot be adjusted through these sliders. From what I saw from the Demo, Knockdowns is going to be a huge loss. No special teams sliders hurts badly. Those were absolutely necessary to help offset the pitifully easy kicking game.

There are special teams sliders after all, but they affect both Human and CPU according to the dev.

[yamabushi]

Quote:

Really, they have zero incentive financial wise to be here.

Sorry, but if Madden sales continue to decline like they did last year, do you think these guys will still have jobs at EA? I dont.

[DrUrsus]

Quote: Originally Posted by swaldo

Perfect example as to why you don't add gimmicks. As soon as I heard the marketing splash over adaptive AI my first question was "How bad will it screw up the game?" Now that the graphics look great can we just focus on improving the important stuff - gameplay, presentation, online, franchise?

This is the honest to God truth. When I heard about Adaptive AI, I thought to myself, Oh no, I hope they aren't going to leave out CPU sliders.

[DrUrsus]

Quote: Originally Posted by adembroski

What's really disappointing is that these sliders, if we had them for both sides, would have been infinitely better than the old ones overall. Being able to adjust reaction time vs. the run and reaction time vs. the pass independently for the CPU would be awesome.

Sooooo true, it hurts