New and More Sliders!!

[DSpezzano]

Quote: Originally Posted by bad_philanthropy

Not saying Bill is incorrect or trying to undermine him in any way, but I would love to get confirmation from one of the developers before this place goes nuclear. If cpu sliders are there or Madden IQ can be turned off it's definitely not presented in a clear way because Bill or Fred over at SG can't seem to find the option.

This thread has been at the top of the forum for a while and I can see they have been online by looking at the user list below the forum. I think the silence is your answer.

[yamabushi]

What would lead them to the conclusion that this would be a good idea? The "adaptive AI" can still be pushed as a new innovative feature without the removal of CPU sliders, can it not?
My head hurts........


I can hear the cancelling of Pre-Orders from here.

[Bill_Abner]

Quote: Originally Posted by DSpezzano

Sigh So Bill if I understand then you didn't even play using the IQ feature. So the feature they are touting for making the game challenging for everyone you can't really comment on. So we have no impressions if game play is good using that feature.

Madden IQ is not supposed to make the game "challenging" it is supposed to balance it out, helping you in areas that you suck at and making it tougher in areas you are good at. Period. All this feature does is tweak the human sliders a certain way. Hell I played my first full game with tougher custom settings than what the IQ score said to use. Will the AI "adapt" and learn after several plays? I guess time will tell. But I think you're confusing what this IQ score really does.

When I get the TV back tonight...

I'll play a game using the Madden IQ score. My grade was around 550 or so and it said my passing was All Madden, Running was almost All Madden and defense was ****.

So, if I am reading this stuff right in the press kit, it should boost my defensive skills while making it tough to pass and run. We'll see. I'll replay that Browns/Steelers game because on the custom settings I used I won 42-7. It was painfully easy to pass.

[bad_philanthropy]

Quote: Originally Posted by DSpezzano

This thread has been at the top of the forum for a while and I can see they have been online by looking at the user list below the forum. I think the silence is your answer.

That's unfortunate really, I was really encouraged by a lot of the things I heard from Ian on the board over the past few months. The game certainly looks fantastic from playing the demo, but it's a reality for me that every football game I have bought since Madden 2001 has seen me play with adjusted slider settings. I'm not being critical of the game's default gameplay design, I understand that they have to make it palatable for a broad customer base. But to take away the option for the rest of us to tailor the experience like we have been doing successfully for most of the decade makes no sense to me.

[Bill_Abner]

Quote: Originally Posted by bad_philanthropy

Not saying Bill is incorrect or trying to undermine him in any way, but I would love to get confirmation from one of the developers before this place goes nuclear. If cpu sliders are there or Madden IQ can be turned off it's definitely not presented in a clear way because Bill or Fred over at SG can't seem to find the option.

I don't take it that way, don't sweat it. I'd like to get confirmation, too. It's puzzling to say the least.

[DSpezzano]

Please tell me Head Coach is good so I can have something to look forward too

[capa]

Confirmation/clarification is needed for sure from Ian, etc.

But if true...what were you guys at EA thinking?? It's all about options and user control. What could possibly be the rationale??

C

[bad_philanthropy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bill_Abner

Madden IQ is not supposed to make the game "challenging" it is supposed to balance it out, helping you in areas that you suck at and making it tougher in areas you are good at. Period. All this feature does is tweak the human sliders a certain way. Hell I played my first full game with tougher custom settings than what the IQ score said to use. Will the AI "adapt" and learn after several plays? I guess time will tell. But I think you're confusing what this IQ score really does. When I get the TV back tonight... I'll play a game using the Madden IQ score. My grade was around 550 or so and it said my passing was All Madden, Running was almost All Madden and defense was ****. So, if I am reading this stuff right in the press kit, it should boost my defensive skills while making it tough to pass and run. We'll see. I'll replay that Browns/Steelers game because on the custom settings I used I won 42-7. It was painfully easy to pass.

So it seems that Madden IQ is something that exclusively influences the human side of the game.

I could care less about that individually, I need to have the dynamic of altering the abilities of the human and cpu gameplay elements against one another. So do a lot of guys on this board.

[Outkizast]

haha and i bet EVERY single one of us will still buy the game this year... because i KNOW i cant wait another year to play madden....

[trobinson97]

Quote: Originally Posted by Outkizast

haha and i bet EVERY single one of us will still buy the game this year... because i KNOW i cant wait another year to play madden....

No, definitely not everyone. Not everyone buys this game regardless of it's shortcomings. You're in that group, enjoy yourself.