New and More Sliders!!

[arichzona]

......anyone else just take Madden 2009 off their list of purchases this coming month? This is really disappointing.

Human sliders work....OH BOY!!!! I am jumping up and down.... Guess what? Only the human sliders work on NCAA also and we all dislike it....

Year after year, after year...... The basics guys. The basics. You are dropping the ball on the simple stuff evey freaking year. Why? Who is working there and how did you get that job?

Thank the Lord that EA doesnt make something that is more important than video games....... imagine if they made cars?

Me: "man it looks sweet.............. hey wait...........where are the headlights? there are no headlights? you guys always have headlights on your cars.....where are they?"

EA Dealer: "well..........um..............just drive it during daylight.....really no one can see the true beauty of your car in the dark anyway, right?"

Me: ............"mmm, maybe..........hey, the wheels are not here? you guys had wheels on your cars last year right? What happened to them?"

EA Dealer: "we are looking into that right now." On the bright side, if you cannot really drive it, you will save tons in gas!"

I think we just found a good reason that the demo is short. Damn you!!!!

let's see.....we have had draft class issues, fumble-itis, no fatigue, rookies who age 3 years if you change their wristbands, colorblind QB's.....the list continues.

[SoMiss2000]

if only EA took the Bungie approach...release it when it's f'n ready!

[callmetaternuts]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFuture15

On the pass blocking again I think you could address the human slider of pass rushing to tweak this. But as far as I can tell, if you think the QB is too accurate, or maybe the CPU WR's are dropping too many (or not enough) passes...I don't know if there's a solution to that.

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFuture15

1. The IQ is an option...if you want the game to "adapt" to you, then you can use IQ to do so (it fluctuates up and down as you play...and the fluctuations are in essence a bunch of HUM slider adjustments) 2. I sure hope not...but I'm not a content expert on 09 yet so I don't know if I can say that with total confidence. 3. Still waiting for this to be approved but we will definitely release this in it's own thread as soon as we can. 4. The sliders are what kind of make up the skill level now. So if you are at all pro, the HUM sliders are 1/4 of the way up. If you are All Madden, they are at 0. You can start with All-Madden and then tweak them from there (like maybe if you are having too difficult of a time running the ball)...and that then changes your skill level to "custom". 5. Yes. 6. Yes. I think you are totally fair and just. I realize this is frustrating...again I am going to do as much research as I can tomorrow to give you all some more news and reasoning behind how this all works.

Thank you for the feedback, but i dont know if one of my questions was answered. I get that the IQ adjusts and the game adjusts to me each time, but (using hypotheticals) if i have a high Madden IQ and in Game 1 i throw 4 INT's (bad decisions) and have 20 carries for 30 yards is the game going to roll over and play dead in Game 2 so its tons easier? Or will i have to learn how to adjust to it?

And, to be sure i understand, can i see what the sliders would be in relation to my skill level? Meaning, if i have a 600 Madden IQ, can i see what sliders levels that would be? Then i can go to custom, and use those sliders, that way, the game wont change (once i get settled in). Id like for the hard games to stay hard and ME adapt as a gamer, not have the game feel bad for me and play easier. Does that make sense?

If this doesnt work, ill try you on PM;s, but im sure your box is flooded right now.

[Outkizast]

hahahaha so i have a brother who doesnt play sports games AT ALL.... he thinks they are boring and dumb and whatever.. i just explained to him what happened and he's says, " D*mn, that's F*ck*d up!" haha kind interesting how someone who could give 3 craps about madden understands how retarded it is to leave out the cpu sliders....

[FootballForever]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoMiss2000

if only EA took the Bungie approach...release it when it's f'n ready!

since this is pretty darn serious, why don't they just delay the game?

[SoMiss2000]

Quote: Originally Posted by AuburnAlumni

This is a dead serious question.... Exactly when did it become a bad thing to be a "sim" player? I promise you, folks keep saying if the "sim" guys are pissed, it won't make much of a dent...but there are a lot more of us out there than most people think. [b]Sure, there are more little 12 year olds who want to score touchdowns on every single play, but the buying power of the late 20s/early 30s mature "sim" football fanatic is a valuable resource in my eyes and the way that we are starting to get spat on is really disappointing.[b/] Dear Lord...please don't let EA take over Take Two.

exactly, why is "family play" mode only incorporated in the Wii version of NCAA/Madden? It needs to be in all versions for those who want to play arcade football.

[pjv31]

Quote: Originally Posted by FootballForever

since this is pretty darn serious, why don't they just delay the game?

They can't. The NFL agreement requires it to be out by a certain date.

[RAZRr1275]

Okay, I am obviously pissed so I'll put this in the calmest way that I can right now. This is inexcusable. The only reason that I would even attempt to be okay with that they removed cpu sliders is that they didn't work and the human controls both. If they just plain out aren't going to be cpu sliders then, well I'm not going to even go there. I doubt I'll buy this game. I'll rent it and unless the rest of this game throughly impresses me then I am not getting this game. Without sliders there is no reason. You can't tune the game to fit yourself. That's another problem I see with Madden IQ. From what I understand it adjust how the user acts when really it should be adjusting the CPU because the user isn't going to change. The cpu can change how it reacts to the user but the user ain't changing, so why force them too based on how great they are? If the user is great then make the cpu stop them. Don't handicap the user.


Rant over. For now.

[JBucc]

Quote: Originally Posted by arichzona

......anyone else just take Madden 2009 off their list of purchases this coming month? This is really disappointing. Human sliders work....OH BOY!!!! I am jumping up and down.... Guess what? Only the human sliders work on NCAA also and we all dislike it.... Year after year, after year...... The basics guys. The basics. You are dropping the ball on the simple stuff evey freaking year. Why? Who is working there and how did you get that job? Thank the Lord that EA doesnt make something that is more important than video games....... imagine if they made cars? Me: "man it looks sweet.............. hey wait...........where are the headlights? there are no headlights? you guys always have headlights on your cars.....where are they?" EA Dealer: "well..........um..............just drive it during daylight.....really no one can see the true beauty of your car in the dark anyway, right?" Me: ............"mmm, maybe..........hey, the wheels are not here? you guys had wheels on your cars last year right? What happened to them?" EA Dealer: "we are looking into that right now." On the bright side, if you cannot really drive it, you will save tons in gas!" I think we just found a good reason that the demo is short. Damn you!!!! let's see.....we have had draft class issues, fumble-itis, no fatigue, rookies who age 3 years if you change their wristbands, colorblind QB's.....the list continues.

[edaddy]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFuture15

There are in fact no CPU sliders. I discovered this myself about 2 weeks ago as well, and was kind of wondering when I should break the news. I wish I had an explanation, but I don't. There's not all that much more I can say about it... There's one other bit of bad news that I discovered at the same time, and that is there is no custom controller configuration any more. Again, I don't really have an explanation. PS - In the build where I was adjusting sliders, I was adjusting User INT's to zero - so the human wouldn't pick off the QB as much (since I know people were originally concerned that the CPU QB threw too many picks). (ducks out of way of flying chairs) So anyway - I don't know what else to say really.

Ian I can respect the fact that you come on these boards and try to get feedback but I must say that I am at odds with this post. I find it very very hard to believe that a lead designer who has been touting Madden and it's features for months has no idea that there were no cpu sliders in the game ..and then to sit on this fact and wait until someone else tells us is disingenuous and shady to say the least. My question is when were you going to tell the community?..When the game dropped?..You have been on these boards non stop yet you leave out a major bit of info that truly effects gameplay...C'mon man you have got to come better than that. Like others have said it's inexcusable..and you know it..This isn't an attack but YOU are the one touting madden on these boards and you should bear the brunt of the criticism regarding the way this was handled..These three months have been a classic case of EA marketing at it's finest and you just happen to be part of that..Your credibility might take a hit only because people on these boards are true football gamers and want to see the best Madden produced. When feedback is given by this community and the exact opposite takes place despite what you tell us to the contrary it becomes a problem.. Ea dropped the ball with NCAA and Madden this year!!!!...Hire Abner. AA, Pared etc these people will give you real opinions and feedback..