New and More Sliders!!

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by tinman

Wow. Since 2000, I have picked up NCAA on day one (or before) every year except this one. For the first time in 8 years, I do not own the newest version of NCAA. I was set on buying Madden this year. It would be my first next gen Madden as the game finally looked like it surpassed NCAA in terms of quality. Now I read this. Unless I hear this is not the case, I will not be buying Madden either. First time in probably 15 years that I will not be purchasing a new iteration of an EA football game. Even bigger, as I don't see anything else on the EA release calendar that interests me, it looks as if 2008 will be the first year since 1993 that EA will not receive a single dime from my wallet. I doubt that I am alone in this.

I doubt you are either. I'm not too concerned with the sliders myself, but I certainly understand the frustration. Really, providing constructive feedback (as most seem to be doing, overall) and speaking with your wallet is the only thing anyone can really do, at this point. I'd like to think there is a rational explaination for all this, but I don't know. It's never dull around a Madden release though, that's for sure

[Bill_Abner]

Quote: Originally Posted by Nza

Also, are the gameplay sliders (i.e. not the pass/run/run-d/pass-d difficulty sliders, the QBA, PBK, CTH, etc) actually labelled 'Human' when you access them? If not, that may reinforce them as global. If there is a Human label though, perhaps there is meant to be a CPU set and it's being patched on release day. It seems weird to spend the year coming to a hc/sim community like OS (well, largely anyway) and taking in ideas and concepts, only to remove a feature that has been in Madden for many years. The kind of radical change that is totally unnecessary. Hopefully there is more to this than EA just taking them out.

No, it's not called "human" but in the description it specifically says that it's for the user. I really don't think they affect the CPU at all, plus that would sorta go against the whole Madden IQ thing if they were global.

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bill_Abner

No, it's not called "human" but in the description it specifically says that it's for the user. Ireally don't think they affect the CPU at all, plus that would sorta go against the whole Madden IQ thing if they were global.

Well, if they're custom though, wouldn't that be superceding the IQ system anyway? I would think it would work under the same premise as the set difficulty levels in that regard.

[edubbs]

Something strange is going on here. I recall Ian setting up a game a couple of weeks ago for the purpose of getting some impressions of stats.

And I remember him specificly saying that he set both user and cpu INT's to 0. I have to find the thread but, it was a game involving Brady and Manning I believe.

Maybe he was doing this test with the patched version of the game.

[wryly]

The developer's silence is deafening.

Bill isn't an idiot. If he can't find any CPU sliders in five minutes, let alone multiple hours, they probably aren't there.

[pjv31]

Quote: Originally Posted by edubbs

Something strange is going on here. I recall Ian setting up a game a couple of weeks ago for the purpose of getting some impressions of stats. And I remember him specificly saying that he set both user and cpu INT's to 0. I have to find the thread but, it was a game involving Brady and Manning I believe. Maybe he was doing this test with the patched version of the game.

Ahh, you are correct my friend. I forgot about that. Dammit where is IAN!!

[Bill_Abner]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

Well, if they're custom though, wouldn't that be superceding the IQ system anyway? I would think it would work under the same premise as the set difficulty levels in that regard.

No, because all the IQ thing does is change the sliders for the human player. (The My Skill level) I can't say with 100% certainty but I really don't think it's global setting. I can try a game tonight and see how it plays, though.

edubbs I hope I am wrong and that both Fred and I have simply missed the CPU settings. The menu system is different this year and maybe it's somewhere I am not looking.

But it's hidden damn good.

[adembroski]

Quote: Originally Posted by pjv31

Ahh, you are correct my friend. I forgot about that. Dammit where is IAN!!

But was it a dev kit version? Maybe he adjusted them through a debug console or something.

[pjv31]

Quote: Originally Posted by adembroski

But was it a dev kit version? Maybe he adjusted them through a debug console or something.

Hmm I mean that could be true, but I think he wouldn't mention it to us as if we could do it ourselves you know?

[edubbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bill_Abner

edubbs I hope I am wrong and that both Fred and I have simply missed the CPU settings. The menu system is different this year and maybe it's somewhere I am not looking. But it's hidden damn good.

Not questioning you at all Bill.

I'm just hoping Ian was playing the patched version when he said he set the Int's to 0, for human and the cpu.