Full game w/ EA Designers (Colts vs. Vikings)

[arseniotall]

meh...

Its too damn fast. This looks like an arcade game from the 90's. The commentary is so sleepy. The crowd is WIZACK. When peterson runs its like one step takes up three yards. Im just not seeing it.

[noplace]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

Well... your first point seems hard to quantify because the enhancements weren't accomplished on last gen hardware. That's like saying could the gang tackling that's in Madden now be accomplished on last gen hardware. I guess it could, since they've said it's similar to what 2K was doing. But it wasn't done on last gen hardware so it's hard to say. For me at least. And I have to completely disagree with the APF DB AI argument. First my debate really wasn't about specific attributes but about the gameplay on the whole. But if we're going to talk specifically about DB AI in the football games, I could easily provide video to make the argument that it wasn't "worst ever". Like the video below - granted it's just one play, but when I looked at a bunch of defensive positions and they all seem to have reacted appropriately: It wasn't perfect, but saying it was the worst is a huge overstatement imo. I'll make this my last post on the subject as not to derail the thread

Please stop posting these....it angers me all over again that APF is not coming out with a game this year...Now thats gameplay, realism, sim football. I wish EA would just copy or hire 2K dev teams or something...That on the field play with EA's franchise would make me very happy...

[BSherrod]

1. Liked the new Lighting model.
2. Liked the new Momentum system
3. Liked that it looked more fun to play to play last year.
4. No radio guy.
5. Liked the new preplay cameras

1. Would like to download the high res version, for some reason it won't work for me.
2. Would like to see more variation.
3. Would like to see the sideline react to whats going on on field.
4. Would like to see less players celebrating on a play or at least toned down.(Simple hand claps would be nice)
5. Would like to see the demo soon and the new stuff added into NCAA next year.

Thanks for the hard work Ian.

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

Good god I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. I see so many post that talk about how great APF is and I just don't see it.

APF was a HUGE disappointment for me. I honestly thought it would be killer.

[Ryan43]

Pros:

• Nice fake hand off animation (especially from the shotgun formation).
• Grass looks good.
• Players helping up other players is a nice touch.
• Joseph Addai's juke on the punt return was great looking.

Cons:

• The spin move still looks bad. Is it me or does it look like when a player spins they turn within a 10 mile radius?
• Peyton Manning's face mask is wrong. There is no excuse for this, especially a top three player in the NFL.
• Speaking of face masks. They look a little thin.

Comments:

Look guys, it's a video game. Programming 22 different individual movements (with AI) at one time would seem like a pretty difficult task.

It's never going to be perfect. You want realism? Put on a jock strap and try out for your local NFL team.

[Anti Honor]

Quote: Originally Posted by arseniotall

meh... Its too damn fast. This looks like an arcade game from the 90's. The commentary is so sleepy. The crowd is WIZACK. When peterson runs its like one step takes up three yards. Im just not seeing it.

Agreed. Although, I'm not sure what ''WIZACK'' means, but I'm sure it's a pretty accurate description of the crowd and game speed.

Still hoping Ian had time to check out the game sliders this year, because default is too easy, and I'm just not satisfied with changing the sliders, and not getting any actual results like in Madden '08. We used to be able to fix game play somewhat with this option, it would be nice to have that option back and in working function. I'm not here to bash you or the game, but your slider person, whoever it is, is really slacking.

Any word, Ian?

[DONF]

Quote: Originally Posted by Anti Honor

Agreed. Although, I'm not sure what ''WIZACK'' means, but I'm sure it's a pretty accurate description of the crowd and game speed. Still hoping Ian had time to check out the game sliders this year, because default is too easy, and I'm just not satisfied with changing the sliders, and not getting any actual results like in Madden '08. We used to be able to fix game play somewhat with this option, it would be nice to have that option back and in working function. I'm not here to bash you or the game, but your slider person, whoever it is, is really slacking. Any word, Ian?

WIZACK is derived from the word Wack. It is just a longer or drawn out saying of the word Wack. Basically, it is worse than wack when you draw it out to say Wizack. The word originated in NYC baby! and is cemented in the NY slang dictionary. ha ha .

Ok, looking at the vids again, it appears gang tackling is really not a major part of this game. When you do see a gangtackle it is pretty much the same animations over again. Ian, how many gang tackling animation do you guys have?

[BigD]

And still nothing at the end of the game, not even one cut of player celebrating a win. Granted I'm not expecting a Super Bowl type celebration but just have a few guys pumping their fist indicating a win..... anything.

[JMD]

The Good:
1. The game over all looks much better, nice looking grass and stadiums.
2. I saw somewhat of a pocket for the QB so this looks to be a step in the right direction.
3. The Announcers are better then the radio guy

The Bad:
1. Game speed is still too fast.
2. Still no refs on the field to throw the flag when there's a penalty. No chain gang either.
3. Lackluster pre, half, and post gmae shows.

I hate to bring up 2k5 but that game had what madden needs in my opinion. It had great presentation. When you play that game you feel like your playing a game of NFL football. From Chris Bermans intro to the excellent half time show with live clips from the first half, to the weekly wrap up during your franchise.

Give us John Madden before the kickoff telling us a little about the match up.

Give us the sideline reporters telling us what a players status is when he gets injured, as well as a half time interview with the coach.

During franchise and season play give us an in depth weekly wrap up that features the best games of the week, outstanding players of the week, and any trade and injury info for that week.

These thing are what made 2k5 so good for me, and it's why I can still enjoy that game today. When you like to play several seasons like I do it helps keep the game fresh

I've already pre ordered Madden 09 and the game looks to be much improved, but i'm concerned that it may get old after one or two seasons.

[adembroski]

Quote: Originally Posted by DONF

WIZACK is derived from the word Wack. It is just a longer or drawn out saying of the word Wack. Basically, it is worse than wack when you draw it out to say Wizack. The word originated in NYC baby! and is cemented in the NY slang dictionary. ha ha . Ok, looking at the vids again, it appears gang tackling is really not a major part of this game. When you do see a gangtackle it is pretty much the same animations over again. Ian, how many gang tackling animation do you guys have?

Lol... know your street history, man... Izzle language came from L.A.