Gang Tackling Challenge Response (from Ian Cummings)

[Ian_Cummings_EA]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

In the highlights you provided though, why does one tackler always seem to disengage? I think this is still the major difference in Madden & 2K tackling. In 2K, wrapping is much more frequent. When the situation calls for it, both 2K defenders wrap & take the defender to the ground. Madden seems to prefer takeover animations. 2 defenders rarely wrap up the ball carrier.

I am not sure I know what you mean here. Those are true 3 man gang tackles in the video I posted - there is no disengaging going on.

[Ian_Cummings_EA]

Quote: Originally Posted by TombSong

I will but I need to get with the video man LB. I dont have any capture equipment to make good visual aids like LB does. LB Ill start a thread but I need you to video some examples of this. Ian, Thanks again for listening.

You may not even need video - I know what you mean...but again this is actually a pretty big design call so I'd like to discuss it in a separate thread if possible.

[LBzrule]

Quote: Originally Posted by fishstick

Now if LBRule can just make a demo showing 2Ks pocket/QB vs Maddens :-)

I'll get ya covered tomorrow I suppose.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFuture15

I am not sure I know what you mean here. Those are true 3 man gang tackles in the video I posted - there is no disengaging going on.

I think our definitions differ. What you're calling a 3-man tackle, I'd call a broken tackle followed by a 2-man tackle. At least that's what I'd call that 1st tackle in the vid. Or maybe you meant to type "2". But that's not my issue.

The very 1st tackle in the vid, notice how #20 wraps & #97 pushes/throws. In the very next tackle, #21 wraps & #52 throws. The next one, #21 wraps & #52 takes over & #21 pushes.

I like the animations since they happen in real life, but these seem to be the majority of your gang tackles. 2K leans more towards both defenders wrapping for the duration of the tackle.

[SteelerSpartan]

A pocket like APF with Qb evade maneuvers for the likes of B-Roeth would be money

[TombSong]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteelerSpartan

A pocket like APF with Qb evade maneuvers for the likes of B-Roeth would be money

I just recently started incorporating using QB evade and am kicking myself for not using it earliar it can get you out of some serious heat and its not done in a way that gives the offense to much advantage.

[TombSong]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFuture15

You may not even need video - I know what you mean...but again this is actually a pretty big design call so I'd like to discuss it in a separate thread if possible.

Thread started...Hope I didnt get too long winded.

[RubenDouglas]

thanks for sharing, interacting, and explaining.. I love this stuff

[adembroski]

Quote: Originally Posted by RubenDouglas

thanks for sharing, interacting, and explaining.. I love this stuff

This is a man's board, damn it, there's no "Sharing" here.

(make up for the lolcat?)

[DONF]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFuture15

Yeah that's what I'm hoping to do tomorrow - not show highlights of the best clips, but just show a bunch of plays in a row with no editing. That to me is the true test of whether I've achieved what I promised.

Good deal! I am looking forward to seeing the gang tackling and the new running animation (vid with Peterson practicing his running ability) live in action. Not cut and paste vids, flat out gameplay showing the aforementioned action. As stated, so far the gameplay vids for 09 did/have not shown anything new.

Thanks