NFL Simulation Sliders 1.0 from Valdarez (tuned for Slow Gameplay)

[Valdarez]

Wow, great game. Tied it up with a FG as timed expired, making it 20-20. My only TD came in the 3rd Quarter when Barber broke out of a ProTak Animation (only second time I've seen it in a game) with a huge upper body movement as I pressed up on the ProTak. Not realistic, but a kewl play none-the-less.

I wanted to post the stats before they became skewed by the overtime play. I upped the Human Fumble to 20 (due to weather conditions impacting it per a test this afternoon) and reduced Human INT to 15.

LAST GAME STATISTICS

Playoff Game: Arizona Cardinals vs. Dallas Cowboys

GAME STATS
Score: 20 / 20 (end of 4th)
Total Offense:295 / 323
Rushing: 63 / 108 (mainly due to break tackle run by Barber)
Passing: 232 / 215
Turnovers: 1 / 1
3rd Down Conversions: 11-18(61%) / 5-12(41%)
Possession Time: 32:20 / 27:40

QUARTERBACK
Kurt Warner - 25/36(69%) for 289 yards 1 TD, 0 INT, and 3 Sacks
Tony Romo - 19/30(63%) for 223 yards 1 TD, 1 INT, and 1 Sack

RUSHING
M. Barber - 21 attempts for 108 yards and 1 TD (5.1 average, longest 55 yds)
T. Hightower - 14 attempts for 37 yards and 0 TD (2.6 average, longest 6 yds)
B. Wells - 7 attempts for 26 yards and 0 TDs (3.7 average, longest 5 yrds)
J. Wright - 1 attempt for 0 yards and 0 TDs (0.0 average)

RECEIVING
Cardinals threw to 10 receivers
WR J. Urban had 12 receptions for 73 yards (6.0 avg) and 0 TDs
WR E. Doucet had 6 receptions for 71 yards (11.8 avg) and 0 TDs
WR A Boldin had 5 receptions for 58 yards (11.6 avg) and 1 TD

Cowboys threw to 6 receivers
TE J. Witten had 5 receptions for 36 yards (7.2 avg) and 0 TDs
WR M. Austin had 4 receptions for 59 yards (14.7 avg) and 1 TD
HB F. Jones had 4 receptions for 65 yards (16.2 avg) and 0 TDs

DEFENSE
Cardinals Highest solo Tackles was 4 (SS A. Wilson)
Cowboys Highest solo Tackles was 8 (MLB K. Brooking)

Cardinals D. Docket had 1 Sack
Cowboys I. Olshansky, D. Ware, and M. Spear all had 1 Sack

[dmick4324]

so i just finished my 3rd game using your sliders. heres how it played out.

it was a sunny day no rain, i only had time to get through 3 quarters with the INT slider at 15

Raiders (me) 38 Broncos 3

Team Stats
Total Offense
Oak - 295
Den - 199

Turnovers
Oak - 1
Den - 3

Time of Possession
Oak - 25:43
Den - 12:44

Passing
Russel 13 of 16 for 203 yards 1 TD 1 INT
Orton 12 of 23 for 182 yards 0 TDs 2 INTs

Rushing
Mcfadden 25 carries 101 yards 2 TDs
Fargas 2 carries 0 yards

Moreno 7 carries for 11 yards (i make it a point to try and stop the run)
Buckhalter 2 carries for 4 yards

Receiving
Nothing really special here except Mcfadden havin 4 catches for 79 yards long being a 51 yard screen play

Defensive
Oak - No Sacks, 2 INTs one taken back for a TD
Den - 1 sack

this was already ugly and on its way to getting even uglier i wish i could get a game like your valdarez im thinking it has to be me somehow. i didnt return kicks of punts like you sed but i must be doing something else bc ive tried alot of slider sets and there all too easy. i must be exploiting something i dont no. i call my own defensive and offensive plays, maybe i should use ask madden?

[Valdarez]

Let me just say that I can tear up any team on these settings. There's just too much wrong with the AI in the game to make it hard AND realistic. Basically what I do is if there is anything that makes it too easy, I don't do it. I don't use Flood plays, as the AI can't handle them. I don't use toss plays from certain sets as I can almost always get a big run on it. Here are the rules I follow that I meant to post earlier.

Manual / Simulation Gameplay Rules

1. Let the CPU return Kicks/Punts
2. Punt / FG in all realistic situations (never go for it just because you 'can'. I punted from 32 earlier today as Folk can't make a 50 in this game for some reason)
3. Found Money Plays? Good! DO NOT USE THEM!!! They are money because the AI can't cover them properly. Forget the plays and never use them again. That's the only way the game will be challenging. The only way.
4. Do Not Play Lineman on defense (you can do to many funky things with them). Instead play LBs, Safeties, or CBs on defense
5. Manually switch on all pass plays and attempt to make the catch. Don't let the AI play for you.
6. Manually switch on all pass defense plays and attempt to knock the ball down and/or make the interception, again, don't let the AI play for you.
7. Do Not Throw Fade Routes (deep straight passes) unless in Hail Mary type of situations.

If you force yourself to use Madden's plays, then it will definitely be more challenging as well. I tend to do that when I'm browsing / playing at the same time. heh

[dmick4324]

thanks man for those rules. kinda sucks tho that the game is so disfunctional that there are plays in the game we cant use or itll make it too easy. wish these madden guys would sit down and take care of the gameplay instead of implementing things like the extra point (i might have watched that once). thanks again for your hard work

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by dmick4324

thanks man for those rules. kinda sucks tho that the game is so disfunctional that there are plays in the game we cant use or itll make it too easy. wish these madden guys would sit down and take care of the gameplay instead of implementing things like the extra point (i might have watched that once). thanks again for your hard work

Agreed on hoping they make it more realistic / smart from a gameplay perspective. I still consider APF2K8 to be one of the most strategic/realistic football games, but even in it you had to avoid certain plays as they were just too easy too pull off. We had risk/reward ratios for plays and if the risk was too low and the reward too high, then the play basically was considered problematic and frowned upon by 'Sim' players. So it's not just Madden that has the problem.

[warchant ftw]

I am mid-season in my franchise and desperately in need of a new set of sliders. Trying these out now.

[Valdarez]

Just played the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Title game. Drew Brees came in with 51 TDs on the year. No clue what their rushing game was, but their injuries were crazy. Check this out:

FS D. Sharper Torn Bicep out 4 Weeks
HB P. Thomas Broken Collarbone out 10 Weeks
MLB M. Cimoneau Torn Tricep Out for Season
WR M. Colston Torn Tricep Out for Season
LT J. Brown Fractured Hip Out for Season
LT J. Brushrod Broken Ankle Out for Season
ROLB S. Shanle Torn Pectoral Muscle Out for Season

Made my Cowboys injury list look down right puny:

WR R. Williams Dislocated Hip out 4 Weeks
SS P. Watkings Torn Groin Muscle Out for Season

In any event, hopefully the high TDs by Brees and hurt HB help explain the low yardage. Felt like they passed all game to me.

LAST GAME STATISTICS

Playoff Game: Dallas Cowboys vs. New Orleans Saints

GAME STATS
Score: 26 / 16 (end of 4th)
Total Offense: 366 / 258
Rushing: 107 / 6
Passing: 259 / 252
Turnovers: 2 / 3
3rd Down Conversions: 6-14(42%) / 2-9(22%)
Possession Time: 46:24 / 13:36

QUARTERBACK
Drew Brees - 16/34(47%) for 233 yards 1 TD, 3 INTs, and 0 Sacks
M. Brunell - 2/4(50%) for 19 yards 0 TD, 0 INT, and 0 Sacks
Tony Romo - 24/29(82%) for 284 yards 0 TD, 1 INT, and 4 Sacks

RUSHING
M. Barber - 32 attempts for 107 yards and 2 TD (3.3 average, longest 27 yds) and 1 Fumble
T. Choice - 2 attempts for 4 yards and 0 TD (2.0 average, longest 2 yds)
F. Jones - 2 attempts for 0 yards and 0 TDs (0 average, longest 0 yrds)
T. Romo - 2 attempts for -4 yards and 0 TDs (-2.0 average)

R. Bush - 8 attempts for 8 yards and 1 TD (1.0 average, longest 4 yds)
P. Thomas - 3 attempts for -2 yards and 0 TDs (-0.6 average, longest 2 yds)

RECEIVING
Saints threw to 9 receivers
TE J. Shockey had 5 receptions for 78 yards (15.6 avg) and 1 TD
HB R. Bush had 4 receptions for 27 yards (6.7 avg) and 0 TDs
WR D. Henderson had 3 receptions for 28 yards (19.3 avg) and 0 TDs

Cowboys threw to 7 receivers
TE J. Witten had 11 receptions for 120 yards (10.9 avg) and 0 TDs
WR K. Ogletree had 5 receptions for 54 yards (10.8 avg) and 0 TDs
WR P. Crayton had 2 receptions for 22 yards (11.0 avg) and 0 TDs

DEFENSE
Saints Highest solo Tackles was 4 (ROLB D. Ware)
Cowboys Highest solo Tackles was 8 (MLB K. Brooking)

Saints S. Ellis had 2 Sacks, while J. Dunbar and J. Charleston had 1 Sack
Cowboys had 0 Sacks

[SilverChaosVII]

I'm gonna give these a shot. I'm def not a cheeser... but maybe I am exploiting things I don't notice because I find this game to be way too easy. I'm gonna try to keep to your rules and see how they go.

Other sliders I can take a created overall 65 team and beat the Colts with ease... I don't cheese... I get realistic stats... but I still dominate for some reason.

I don't run any off tackle runs... but I do use sweeps on occasion. I find the off tackle runs to be an easy 10 yards every time... so I don't use them lol.

I also seem to shut down offenses way too easy... I call a lot of blitzes and always play as the free safety (to start the play) then switch as the play goes... and I usually shut down the running game no problem and do enough against the pass to hold up. (This is all playing on other peoples sliders on this site)

But anyway, I'm watching my Phillies right now but when this game is over I'll give your sliders a shot. Hopefully I can help out. I enjoy this game even with the few things that are broken on it. Maybe this can make it playable for me again.

[Valdarez]

Updated the sliders a little to address players, primarily to address issues with high number of INTs reported by other gamers. Here are the changes that were made.

* Increased Several Penalties
* Increased Human Fumble (very little)
* Increased CPU Passing Accuracy
* Lowered CPU Catching (very little)
* Increased CPU Awareness (increases complexity of passing game)
* Increased CPU Pass Rushing (very little)
* Increased CPU Block Shedding (very little) to make running more difficult


In addition, I added the 'Madden Challenge'

The Madden Challenge

For a game that is based off his name, Madden sure does a good job of making John Madden look like one of the worst play callers ever to play the game. If you want a real challenge, then use 'Ask Madden' on every play, every down, no matter what the situation. John is sure to give you some pretty poor play choices in some very key situations. If you want to make it even harder, then don't make any adjustments on offense or defense. No press / off coverage, DLine / LB adjustments, hot routes, motioning to catch defense off balance, or keeping the HB to the flats back for an extra blocker in long yardage situations.



'Ask Madden' is the real 'All Madden' difficulty settings. Try it out. You'll have an extremely realistic / challenging game, though it won't be the most strategic for the strategy enthusiasts.

[SilverChaosVII]

Probably the most realistic feeling game I have had on Madden... a few concerns... but overall great... first the stats, then a few comments

I don't pick the same team every time... I like to mix it up.

I used the Ask Madden strategy... but eliminated all the cheese plays he called... I would just pick another play if that happened.

Atlanta (CPU) @ Cincinnati (ME)

1st Quarter: First quarter was fairly balanced. I threw a pick on my first play from scrimmage. Bad throw on my part, forced it on a slant route. Atlanta struck first on a 20 yard Michael Turner run. I over pursued and left my gap... he took it to the house. I responded with a good 12 play drive, ending on a touchdown throw to Chad Ochocinco (11 yard slant route) pinched it between two defenders. I also had a big fumble recovery returned for 66 yards and a touchdown that was called back.
7-7 end of quarter

2nd Quarter: I hit a field goal. They respond with a touchdown. It was my mistake. Had a linebacker matched up on Gonzalez but forgot to have safety help over the top. He got behind him for a 43 yard touchdown. I came back with a solid drive that ended with a Cedric Benson touchdown run up the middle, only about 10 seconds left in the half.
17-14 end of half.

3rd Quarter: It got scary lol. Early in the 3rd quarter Palmer went down hurt. I called a screen play... took a hit while throwing. On the play the Falcons picked it off... and it was bogus. Some lineman looking the opposite direction jumped up and made a blind catch? But that's Madden lol. Palmer was quickly diagnosed and unable to return. They took the interception and capitalized. Scored on an 11 yard pass to Turner on third and goal.
21-17 end of quarter.

4th Quarter: Without Palmer I wasn't as comfortable throwing the ball but still took some chances. My defense played big. I ran the ball pretty heavy, and picked up a field goal to close the gap to 1 with about 10 minutes remaining. Defense stepped up... allowed no points... I drove down the field and ran some playaction, hitting Coles on a flag route for 24 yards, touchdown! Went for 2 and was broken up. Defense went beast, held Atlanta around midfield. Got the ball back and ran the clock down to 30 seconds, Falcons couldn't do anything back.
26-21 end of game

Final Score: 26-21, Cincinnati

Brief Stats:
Palmer: 16-24, 182 yards, 1 td, 2 int
OSullivan: 5-9, 69 yards, 1 td
Ryan: 13-26, 157 yards, 2 td

Benson: 34 rush, 149 yards, 4.3 avg, td
Turner: 21 rush, 84 yards, 4.0 avg, td

Ochocinco: 6 rec, 66 yards, td
Coats: 5 rec, 66 yards
Coles: 2 rec, 35 yards, td
Jenkins: 5 rec, 32 yards
Gonzalez: 2 rec, 76 yards

Defense:
Cin: 0 sacks, 0 ints, 0 ff, 0 fr
Atl: 2 sacks, 2 ints, 0 ff, 0 fr


The Goods:
Most realistic game I've played on Madden by far. I was trailing until 5 minutes remaining in the game... I really had to fight for the win. Realistic stats. Game ended close like it should with these two teams.

The Bads:
Only thing that worried me was that my defense had no sacks, no ints, nothing.

Overall, I'll stick with these... run a couple more games and see how it goes.