JD's FIFA 12 elite "Manager Mode" Legendary/All-Manual Sliders

[Jd_Seven]

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MATCH
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Half Length: 10/15 minutes
Difficulty Level: Legendary
Game Speed: Slow/Normal

If anyone wants a change up for a nice camera view I use Height 0 and Zoom 20. Really shows off FIFA 12's graphics.

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PLAYSTATION/XBOX CONTROLLER
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Auto Switching: Manual
Auto Switching Move Assistance: None
Passing Power Assistance: Off
Pass Assistance: Manual
Through Passing Assistance: Manual
Shot Assistance: Manual
Cross Assistance: Manual
Lob Pass Assistance: Manual
Save Assistance: Manual
Analog Sprint: On
Defending - Tactical Defending

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User/ CPU Game Customization
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Sprint Speed - 50/ 50
Acceleration - 50/ 50
Shot Error - 40/ 54 43/53
Pass Error - 39/ 67
Shot Speed - 51/ 51
Pass Speed - 60/ 60
Injury Frequency - 77/ 77
Injury Severity - 51/ 51
Goalkeeper Ability - 60/ 60 60/55
Positioning:Marking - 90/ 55
Positioning:Run Frequency - 55/ 55
Positioning: Line Height- 48/ 48
Positioning: Line Length - 49/49
Positioning: Line Width - 47/47
Positioning: Fullback Positioning - 55/ 55
Power Bar - 65/- [User personal preference]

Updated 11/05/2012

* Use the red numbers for tougher game, possession is vital as the cpu will have a great chance at scoring at any open opportunity, even from distance.

Games and players feel to mimic the real deal along with realistic stats. Games will very from 0-0 draws to 4-3 thrillers. This slider set is for the FIFA vets or elite manual players only. You will be punished if you think you can just ping pong pass and run in an easy goal. Not with these, this set opens up a tactical mind game as well as each possession and build up will be defended realistically. Your going to have to use tactics and use intelligent build up play to score and win games. When you go up against any of the big name clubs you will most definitely find out very quickly that you are playing on Legendary all manual especially against 5 star teams.

I also feel the need to go to full controls. Why would you want the CPU to assist you in gameplay? There is no precision involved from your part. on all-manual the game opens up so much more as placing short/long/crosses are a thing of beauty when you get it down.

Build Up Full Manual will open the game up for any player who hasn't used them. For the guys who have been using this set will give you a great football experience. There is no need for an extreme adjustments in AI custom tactics because this slider set will play to a teams strengths by default. Useful Thread to go to. Custom Team Tactics.

All the line position plays dividends in their attack and defense. No more NO shooting by the CPU, the CPU will work the ball into the box, or shoot from range when the chance arises and take full opportunity of open space. If you back your line to hold the attack the CPU will definitely shoot from range.

Speed & Acceleration I have also moved the game down to slow and kept the player speed relatively default. Normal also plays out well, personal preference for users on that one.

Goalkeeping The GK at 60 seems serviceable. It would be difficult to beat out elite keepers. There are other options if you are having trouble beating the keeper.

Shooting & Passing
Your in total control of your passes, crosses and shots, attributes for a player play major roles. The CPU can be deadly, so be cautious.

Injuries
I have been getting sensible injury amounts from both the human and cpu, I also get nice random lengths, I seen 3 days, 3 weeks and up to 3 months. It's nice to see some teams are averaging 2-3 players injured at any given time.

Please leave any feedback as it's always welcome and enjoy. Latest Patch and Squad update was used to get these out.

[Jd_Seven]

Leaving GK at 40 seems logical on legendary.

Top keepers stand out as prominent as they should. I just had a great game Man U vs Man City and wow what a game. Final score 1-0. Hart made some ridiculous stops after I hit some great power shots just outside the box, I was only able to beat him once. Man City was unforgiving on attack most of the game, with a defensive tactic I did a great job of closing them down to end up with a great win.

All in all I am getting in a few more games and starting to see the set play out. Most definitely having some great games that finally resemble a tactical fun game of football.

3-1 against Norwich City
2-2 against Stoke
1-0 against Man City

As you can see a variety of scores to gauge a bit of what kind of games you can expect.

Passing and Shooting at 0 with manual, finally gives us the ability for perfect precision on the gamepad.

[mookie2661]

I have been using your sliders and enjoying since you originally posted them. I am playing as Greuther Furth in 2. Bundesliga. I get a huge variety of scores from winning 5-1 to losing 3-0. I wanted to give you props.

Just out of curisity... What kind of shot totals are you getting with these?

Thanks

[Jd_Seven]

Quote: Originally Posted by mookie2661

I have been using your sliders and enjoying since you originally posted them. I am playing as Greuther Furth in 2. Bundesliga. I get a huge variety of scores from winning 5-1 to losing 3-0. I wanted to give you props. Just out of curisity... What kind of shot totals are you getting with these? Thanks

Good to hear and thanks, as for shot totals it all depends who I am up against really, situation as well. I don't make it a habit to try shoot often unless I am down. I usually look and wait for a really good quality opportunity to score but if I am down I am a little more ambitious.

I'll get off anywhere from 7 - 15 shots a game I rate. Same goes for the CPU.

[Qb]

Question for you, Jd_Seven, regarding pass & shot error at zero for all-manual. I'm currently using Semi-assisted for ground passing & shooting and manual for all others. Not a bad setup, but I always enjoyed manual controls, even if I didn't use them as much due to the constant defensive pressure in past games. With that no longer being an issue, I'm thinking of going back to all-manual offline.

Which finally brings me to my question. With those sliders at zero, do body position, momentum, and timing still have the proper effect on the pass/shot? I understand your reasons for reducing them to zero... user input decides outcome, nothing else. However, I noticed as shot & pass error are raised, balls struck from awkward positions, first touches, or with the ball bouncing more frequently result in bad passes/shots, even for the CPU. It surprised me at first, but I've seen enough of it now to believe the error is referring more to a penalty applied for passing or shooting when off-balance/under pressure/etc than some modifier of overall accuracy. Which would explain why some people report seeing no significant shift in passing % even with error at 100.

Did any of that make sense?

[Jd_Seven]

Understood,

I will just start off by saying all-manual controls are the way to go and the only REAL way to appreciate this generation of the FIFA series, this year more so than ever.

I don't know how exactly the coding is played out for these sliders but its quite a crap shoot the higher you go. I mean, if you put shooting error at 100, and have a perfect shot at goal, stance everything in perfect position, what would the chances be then? What factors in to miss it?

I just can't stand using assisted or semi assisted, because you just have to aim in the general direction of the goal or teammate..and its usually money.

Scoring can be quite difficult still even at 0, you still have to make every shot count on Legendary, thats for sure. There is no way you are going to score off-balance or some cheap shot when its at 0 on all manual...no way, not a chance.

I also personally don't see the shooting or passing slider taking into consideration that "the error is referring more to a penalty applied for passing or shooting when off-balance/under pressure/etc". Just because when your standing dead still, no player around, passing the ball still "pops up" when turning pass error higher. Same goes for shooting.

I could test this theory out more, but just doesn't seem to factor in. I think ratings determine that kind of outcome more so than anything. Thats why players have so many ratings, like Strength, Vision, Balance, Shooting, Long Shots, etc. These are what play a role imo.

Same goes for passing, I don't know what the deal is with that slider as much as I woud like to. I mean, if you bump the CPU pass error up to much, the pretty much bounce the ball to each other like they are playing DONKEY or something. Its crazy, same goes for user.

Shooting and Pass Error and 0 coupled with the all manual controls works perfectly, at least for me. I get great outcomes, brilliant goals etc. resembles the real thing.

When I was on all manual playing on default pass and shooting error, shooting becomes almost a luck. Previous years I played semi assisted passing (last year passing on manual was SO random) I have been playing FIFA since I can remember man, and this year, FINALLY where I want to place the ball in terms of joystick control, its going to where I want it. Precision.

If you play all-manual and use default shooting error on 50, shooting with Rooney (with no penalty like balance etc or players around) seems like I am trying to take a shot with Gary Neville, not cool.

Top class strikers DON'T shoot that wide that often like many people may think, no way. But..if you do miss, you know its on you.

PLUS..really, why would anyone really want a CPU AI to help them play FIFA? It's evolved so much that it only makes in more enjoyable for the user. Make things easier, change the difficulty down low if u need to, but play with all-manual I say. I know all-manual isn't for everybody as it can be difficult but with a little practice, anyone would not want to go back, that I am sure.

It's like playing Call of Duty with aim assist..its just cheezing

[BOMB82]

Are you still playing 15 minute halves?

[Jd_Seven]

Quote: Originally Posted by BOMB82

Are you still playing 15 minute halves?

yup, my CM im using 15 min halves, and the setup above. Still just trying to find that perfect zone for injuries though.

Most recent scores, 1-0 against Man City (first clean sheet during my CM after about 8 games), Highest score for me was 5-0 against Bolton, 4-1 against Sunderland, 2-2 Swansea City (I was 2-0 up at the break but man, was an away game and wow, they pushed HARD for a draw) - I was pissed after that game.

I am enjoying 15 min halves very much so, I can get some really good build ups going even when I am down. I never feel like there is a rush to score a goal unless I am down by more than 1, I just change my tactics to more attacking. I usually start off in a defensive tactic as I play with Man U (their strong point I guess is holding onto the football).

[Qb]

I hear you, JD. I played a game on all-manual last night and it felt great to be back. I also felt something was off with passing in FIFA11 after using it in previous years.

I Played the first half with your 0/0 error settings on Legendary. I tried a few intentionally off-balance turning passes when I had space and I saw little to no punishment for doing so. The ball went where I wanted (and presumably aimed) it to go, with no bounce, good speed, etc. Maybe it's all in my head - always a possibility - but in playing the second half with default 50/50 error, I made some poor passes when doing similar actions, which I'm OK with. If my CB is attempting a first-time half-volley pass, I feel that should have some affect on the quality of the pass due to its difficult nature, even if my aim & power are good. What I didn't notice was any appreciable difference between 0 and 50 error when I was not running, not facing my target, between hops, on the volley, etc.

I think we have simply different perspectives on the matter, neither right or wrong. I understand your POV... why let the game randomly punish me if I execute correctly? However, I see it as emphasizing "good technique" and perhaps even creating more separation between players as it seems a less skilled player is more likely to produce a bad ball in difficult circumstances. I felt error at zero seemed to minimize this effect, but again I'm basing this off a lot of conjecture and a very small sample size. So...

[Lenkbron]

Only problem i see, the CPU is just passing, passing, passing. Playing like Barca with every team, but shooting on goal 1-2 times a game (scoring from those 1-2 shots of course).
Not gaining any ground, seems they just want to win the possesion duel and score on one chance they have. Pretty unrealistic, not 1 long ball from the CPU all game, maybe 2-3 crosses.
Why does the CPU not use any long balls?