College Hoops 2K>The College Hoops 2K8 esoteric information thread (learn and discuss the arcane)
koshi 03:44 AM 10-28-2008
I've done some more testing and custom playbooks for the CPU is working out quite nicely. It mainly does two things:
1. Weeds out the bad plays.
2. Gets the ball into the scorer's hands more.
This results in more realistic play from the CPU on the offensive end.
I created a balanced playbook of 20 plays, for teams with inside and outside game, and tested it out against as '81 Indiana vs. '90 LSU (C Shaq, PF Stanley Roberts, SG The Legend Chris Jackson). They started out feeding Shaq down low often and he had two monster dunks, getting fouled each time. He ended up getting in foul trouble himself, and Chris Jackson started to take over... Along with Roberts getting a few buckets from posting up.
I ended up losing by 16, with Jackson ending up with 20 some odd points, Roberts 12, and Shaq 11 in limited time.
Here's the balanced book I created, for those who don't want to go through the playbooks themselves:
CPU Balanced
BOX- PF Pop Clear
BOX- Pick then Post
BOX- PF Double Screen
MOTION- SF Weak Side
MOTION- SG Stagger
MOTION- PG Combo
MOTION- Switchback
MOTION- 24 Motion
FLEX- PG- PF Pick and Roll
FLEX- PG Choice
FLEX- PF Low Post
FLEX- PG-C High Screen and Roll
UCLA HIGH POST- SF Low Post
UCLA HIGH POST- SG Iso
PRINCETON- C Low Post Feed
STACK- Double Cross
STACK- Screen Step Out
STACK- PG Clear Out
STACK- 41
STACK- Michigan
You very well might be able to just use this playbook, or another like it, for the CPU playbook all the time. When in Legacy you have to exit Legacy to reload another playbook. So if your upcoming opponent has a star PF and you have a perimeter playbook loaded, you have to exit, load, reload, etc... Not that big of a deal, but like I say, one balanced playbook would probably suffice and save yourself the trouble.
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koshi 03:52 AM 10-28-2008
Oh yeah... muggins... About your problem with the 2-3...
I never run zone outside of the occasional 1-3-1, but ran some 2-3 as I tested the CPU playbooks... And yeah, that's a pretty nasty little glitch... It's not even an L, it's more like a V going all the way down to the blocks...
I think what's happening is that the SF or PF (whoever is on that side down low) kind of steps out to cover the man on the wing without going all the way out, and the guard goes down to cover that small open space.
I really don't think there's a way around it, except to take control of that player when an offensive player is out on the wing like that.
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grismosw 07:04 AM 10-28-2008
I don't remember which zone I always used, it was either 1-2-2 or 2-1-2 but I seemed to get better coverage on the wings.
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koshi 09:28 AM 10-28-2008
^ Good suggestion. Maybe the 1-1-3 works better as well???
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muggins 11:03 AM 10-28-2008
I'll try that out for sure. I have been playing about two games a night again since I gave up on NBA2k9 and I still love this game so much. My sliders are perfect, I'm in my 3rd or 4th season at Northern Colorado and I'm under .500.
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rhs_rizzo 03:26 PM 10-28-2008
Originally Posted by koshi:
^ Good suggestion. Maybe the 1-1-3 works better as well???
1-1-3 is a defense to run against teams that don't shoot too well or much threes at all.
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moe_42 04:37 PM 10-28-2008
Originally Posted by koshi:
^ Good suggestion. Maybe the 1-1-3 works better as well???
I get better D with the 1-1-3 than the 2-3, but if you want two guards up, the 2-1-2 seems to be the way to go.
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moe_42 04:44 PM 10-28-2008
Originally Posted by koshi:
I play on default All American, 20 minute halves. I imagine if you start tweaking things the CPU will play different... But with the results I'm getting, I am more than satisfied.
I've gotten my 20-minute AC sliders to replicate actual stats extremely well - I'll try your custom books with them.
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koshi 06:41 PM 10-28-2008
I just added two things to post #8 of this thread, in the "Moves you might not be aware of" section at the bottom of that post:
The No Look Pass- Hold R2 when passing with the X button. You'll see a flashy attempt at a pass, usually a no look, but also sometimes around the back of the head. I think the player's pass rating has to be pretty high, because you don't always see the animation triggered. It does not work with icon passing.
Icon Passing/Switch to the man closest to the basket- When using Icon Passing or Icon Defensive Switch, the R2 button will pass/switch to the man closest to the basket.
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ty5oke 11:11 PM 10-28-2008
Originally Posted by koshi:
I just added two things to post #8 of this thread, in the "Moves you might not be aware of" section at the bottom of that post:
The No Look Pass- Hold R2 when passing with the X button. You'll see a flashy attempt at a pass, usually a no look, but also sometimes around the back of the head. I think the player's pass rating has to be pretty high, because you don't always see the animation triggered. It does not work with icon passing.
Icon Passing/Switch to the man closest to the basket- When using Icon Passing or Icon Defensive Switch, the R2 button will pass/switch to the man closest to the basket.
Thanks, Didn't know about the no look pass. I'll have to try that next game.
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