somebody help very important LEGAL question about college hoop rosters

[suirad]

i have been corresponding back and forth with the creator of statsheet.com his name is robbie very cool guy please read the following conversation and tell me what you think (Start from the bottom and work your way up) My stats providers says it is illegal to redistribute that information without our consent. There is a reason you can’t find that information anywhere else. I had to pay a lot of money for it and you’ll be using it for free. Since I’m paying for it out of pocket, this is hard for me to swallow. I suppose if you hosted the rosters on StatSheet.com it would be acceptable.


On 11/29/08 11:48 PM, "darius jackson" <suirad_allah@hotmail.com> wrote:


dag that is alot. once i get the rosters up to my standard i will post them for download on 2kshare via xbox live they will be free as long as you have a xbox live membership and a xbox 360 system complete with the college hoops 2k8 video game


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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 0752 -0500
Subject: Re:
From: robbie@statsheet.com
To: suirad_allah@hotmail.com

I’ve paid 100 times that amount ;-) How will you make the game available to the public? Will it be for sale?


On 11/28/08 11:08 PM, "darius jackson" <suirad_allah@hotmail.com <http://hotmail.com/> > wrote:



AMEN BROVA I KNOW WOT U MEAN IVE SPENT OVER 100 DOLLARS JUST FOR 7 MAGAZINES WITH SIMILAR INFO LIKE YOU PROVIDE HERE IS THE LINK VINTAGE COLLEGE HOOPS ROSTERS ARE COMING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <http://www.operationsports.com/forums/college-hoops-2k/279003-vintage-college-hoops-rosters-coming.html>

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:03:03 -0500
Subject: Re:
From: robbie@statsheet.com <http://statsheet.com/>
To: suirad_allah@hotmail.com <http://hotmail.com/>

Hi Darius,

Most of the data on StatSheet I had to pay big bucks for. Glad you are able to take advantage of it for free ;-) Do you have a link to your gaming project?

Robbie Allen


On 11/16/08 1:18 AM, "darius jackson" <suirad_allah@hotmail.com <http://hotmail.com/> <http://hotmail.com/> > wrote:


robbie your sight is incredible you have saved my life man this by far has been a tremendous help to me as i use it for video game editing old college basketball rosters i pray that this site will be up for a long time and anything i can do to further the cause i will. my question is are you going to be able to update further back in college basketball with the rosters and jersey numbers weight class etc going from year 96 and back like you have done with the other years? im amazed and a little curious how you got all this info for college hoops together as ive literally been looking for three years for some credible internet source to be able to use to update my gaming project. thank you so much for your sight it has been a tremendous help and please let me know where you have found your sources i appreciate u so much you just dont know

[Spanky]

Can somebody translate all this into English and tell me what is the purpose of it.

[ehh]

I don't understand 75% of that post but there is no way it's illegal. I use statsheet.com all the time, whoever owns that site does not own those statistics or have exclusive rights to them.

[whittleboy615]

StatSheet.com does not provide 1995-96 roster information. I don't see how he could claim that he owns your roster project. That's stretching it a bit. You would not be redistributing their information because they don't have any information for 1995-96.

But if he does decide to provide you with info for those years, I would just go with his wishes, and ask him if he will host it for free on StatSheet.com. Having all of those statistics accessible and available for free would be a big help in a project like this. It would be worth it, unless your magazines provide everything that StatSheet already provides.

I see his point though. It would be applicable if you were making 1996-97 rosters and using his website exclusively for data. He spent a lot of money on collegiate licenses to be able to host mass amounts player info on his website. If you copy all of it exactly into a roster file and spread it around, then you would essentially be copying a portion of his website and saying that it belongs to you.

If he doesn't provide 1995-96 info, then just stick to using your magazines and pretend like you never e-mailed the guy. That's my opinion.


I really hope you are able to complete this project by the way. It would be awesome to have authentic rosters from that season. Most people start things like this and never finish them, but you seem pretty intent on creating these no matter how long it takes. Plus, you spent $100 on 7 magazines! Thanks for doing this, and good luck with your project. Too bad it's not a PS3 file.

[Seryn]

I haven't spent much time on Statsheet, but another good resource for stats from 98-99 season forward is the NCAA database:

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/careersearch

It won't help with the 95-96 season, but may be useful for later seasons.

[suirad]

thanks seryn u r always there when i need ya im almost done wit da big ten