Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[superjames1992]

The idea that Notre Dame would become a member of the Big 12 is a bit far-fetched, IMO.

[Baughn3]

Quote: Originally Posted by lonewolf371

He's right. It doesn't really make sense geographically, culturally, and academically (although I think academics are a relatively minor concern). The only reason I can think of that Notre Dame might like the Big XII more would be if the Big XII would let them keep their TV deal and not require as much in terms of revenue sharing as the Big Ten would.

I'm just having some fun. My way of saying that there is no way to guarantee anything when it comes to conference realignment.

I was thinking more that Notre Dame might join the Big East, considering they're a member of that conference in every other sport, they would be more likely to win that conference than the BIG Ten or Big XII, and the Big East would be more likely to allow them to keep their NBC money rather than divvy it out to the other members. Notre Dame could possibly be the Big East equivalent of Texas in the Big XII if they played their cards right.

It didn't make geographic, academic, or cultural sense for TCU to join the Big East either, but it happened. And yes, I know it was step up for TCU whereas it would be a lateral move, at best, for Notre Dame.

[sportsbuck]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baughn3

I'm serious. You're so ardent in your belief about Notre Dame not joining any conference other than the BIG Ten.. you must have psychic abilities. I've never had the opportunity to talk to a real psychic, so I'm trying to prosper a bit

Damn you've really got a hard-on about my post.

I listed my reasons why it's doubtful they would join the Big 12, and why the B1G Ten makes the most for them. Take it or leave it.

Edit: disregard, didn't know you were playing around, thought you were just being an *******.

[Baughn3]

Quote: Originally Posted by sportsbuck

Damn you've really got a hard-on about my post. I listed my reasons why it's doubtful they would join the Big 12, and why the B1G Ten makes the most for them. Take it or leave it.

Relax, I'm just messing with you. The fact that you are so sure about anything regarding conference realignment was funny to me, so I made a joke about it.

I don't believe they would join the Big XII either, but crazier things have happened (TCU to the Big East for example). But to say that the BIG Ten is the conference they would join (and I'm assuming you mean it's the only conference they would ever join, no matter what) is also crazy to me.

If there's anything I've learned about all of this conference realignment, is that nothing is for certain.

[untrugby]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baughn3

I'm serious. You're so ardent in your belief about Notre Dame not joining any conference other than the BIG Ten.. you must have psychic abilities. I've never had the opportunity to talk to a real psychic, so I'm trying to prosper a bit

Whats the upside for ND joining any conference? They already have thier own very sweet exclusive TV deal. They already have a great deal regarding BCS entry, much better than if they were in a big conference. They can put together any type of schedule they want. They have no pressure to join any conference. If they ever did decide to join one. The big 10 makes the most sense geographically and schedule wise since they already play a few big 10 teams every year. ND hasnt even played a big 12 team in 10 years.

[Baughn3]

Quote: Originally Posted by untrugby

Whats the upside for ND joining any conference? They already have thier own very sweet exclusive TV deal. They already have a great deal regarding BCS entry, much better than if they were in a big conference. They can put together any type of schedule they want. They have no pressure to join any conference. If they ever did decide to join one. The big 10 makes the most sense geographically and schedule wise since they already play a few big 10 teams every year. ND hasnt even played a big 12 team in 10 years.

Please refer to my previous 2-3 posts.

In addition to the points I have made, I think Notre Dame might get left in the dust of the seemingly inevitable super conferences if they don't decide to join one in the next 5 years or so. Their TV deal will run out eventually, and they may not get one as lucrative as this one.

[untrugby]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baughn3

Please refer to my previous 2-3 posts. In addition to the points I have made, I think Notre Dame might get left in the dust of the seemingly inevitable super conferences if they don't decide to join one in the next 5 years or so. Their TV deal will run out eventually, and they may not get one as lucrative as this one.

how would they get left in the dust? the super conferences make it more likely that a 1 loss top 10 team wont get a BCS spot so Notre Dame's BCS deal would look even better. And as for TV deal win or lose they pull in ratings and its with a station where they are the only games shown on there. So thats not going to change anytime soon.

[Baughn3]

Quote: Originally Posted by untrugby

how would they get left in the dust? the super conferences make it more likely that a 1 loss top 10 team wont get a BCS spot so Notre Dame's BCS deal would look even better. And as for TV deal win or lose they pull in ratings and its with a station where they are the only games shown on there. So thats not going to change anytime soon.

My guess is that if the 16 team super conferences form, the structure of the BCS would change. Therefore, Notre Dame would lose their BCS exemption and only teams from the super conferences would get the bids.

That's just my opinion though, so I could obviously be wrong

I haven't seen the ratings for Notre Dame's games on NBC, so I can't speak to that. I know that I don't watch any game of theirs besides the USC game, but that's just because I can't stand NBC's presentation style, and I really don't like Notre Dame's football program. I'm probably not a good representation of the USA as a whole.

[DonkeyJote]

Quote: Originally Posted by untrugby

Whats the upside for ND joining any conference? They already have thier own very sweet exclusive TV deal. They already have a great deal regarding BCS entry, much better than if they were in a big conference. They can put together any type of schedule they want. They have no pressure to join any conference. If they ever did decide to join one. The big 10 makes the most sense geographically and schedule wise since they already play a few big 10 teams every year. ND hasnt even played a big 12 team in 10 years.

Sweet Exclusive TV Deal? How much do you think Notre Dame gets from NBC per year? I bet it's a ton less than you think. While a team from the Big Ten, Pac 12, or SEC may get $20M or more from their conference, Notre Dame gets about $9M. Notre Dame is bucking the trend - if it was about money to them, they'd have already jumped to the Big Ten (the conference that would likely offer the biggest payout).

[untrugby]

Quote: Originally Posted by DonkeyJote

Sweet Exclusive TV Deal? How much do you think Notre Dame gets from NBC per year? I bet it's a ton less than you think. While a team from the Big Ten, Pac 12, or SEC may get $20M or more from their conference, Notre Dame gets about $9M. Notre Dame is bucking the trend - if it was about money to them, they'd have already jumped to the Big Ten (the conference that would likely offer the biggest payout).

even though its only 9 mill it works out to about 1.8 mil per game its not as much as the 2-2.5 mil the big 10, 12 or sec gets but its better than the 660k the pac 10 gets. They also get as much as a BCS conference team would get in BCS revenues every year guaranteed and if they make a BCS game the get 4 times that amount.