Originally Posted by MassNole:
Considering FSU would be starting a RS-Freshman QB, there is a good chance they'd be 1-7 or even 0-8 without Christian Ponder. North Carolina has one the best defenses in America statistically speaking, run by a defensive guru in Butch Davis, he shredded them to come back from a 24-6 deficit on the road. Again if the defense wasn't god awful, FSU could be sitting at 6-2 right now.
And Florida could be undefeated if... oh wait, they are undefeated.
I would take the quarterback that has a proven history of winning than a quarterback who could win if...if...if...
I'm not a fan of either Florida or FSU, but as an outsider I don't understand how you could choose Ponder.
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Cebby 05:36 PM 11-01-2009
Originally Posted by MassNole:
In this decade, FSU has signed the following QBs.
Chris Rix
Joe Mauer
Adrian McPherson Wyatt Sexton
Drew Weatherford Xavier Lee Christian Ponder
D'Vo Richardson E.J. Manuel Will Secord
The only good player on the list may be the MVP, but he's also a Minnesota Twin.
Originally Posted by :
The guys who run the Rivals and Scout.com sites for the Texas schools were all high on him,
Not high enough to get him a fourth star?
Originally Posted by :
North Carolina has one the best defenses in America statistically speaking, run by a defensive guru in Butch Davis, he shredded them to come back from a 24-6 deficit on the road. Again if the defense wasn't god awful, FSU could be sitting at 6-2 right now.
Most high schools could be the best statistical defense playing North Carolina's schedule.
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MBFranchise 05:37 PM 11-01-2009
Originally Posted by kehlis:
Damn, I forgot this was Ponder's first year. My bad.
And regardless, it isn't a hypothetical if it has happened on numerous occasions.
Again, do you know what hypothetical means?
Yes, I know what hypothetical means. If you base your decision on Ponder because he can lead you back down 6 with :45 seconds left, that is creating a hypothetical. I know he has led a few comebacks this season, but did he do it from 6 down with exactly :45 seconds left? If so, I stand corrected. If not, that is a hypothetical.
Besides, you have to be losing to have a fourth quarter comeback. My point is that I would choose the quarterback that gave me the best chance to win throughout the game instead of relying on him to make frantic comebacks in the fourth quarter. IMO, that player is Tebow.
But I don't feel the need to argue semantics with you anymore. Simply look at the results of the poll.
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I can't argue with what Tebow is done, but would you really trust Tebow throwing the ball against a legit pass defense?
This is just an uniformed question.
Let's see, Tebow has beat LSU twice, Georgia twice, Tennessee and Florida State so many times I forgot how many, Miami, Alabama in the SECCG, Oklahoma in the BCSCG.
Or when you said "legit pass defenses" were you referring to the powerhouse secondaries in the Big XII and ACC? Which one was that.
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lilbently 05:40 PM 11-01-2009
Originally Posted by legendkiller5:
Again, would you trust his arm against a legit pass defense? :45 seconds left, down by 6 and needing a touchdown, would you trust his arm against a top tier pass D?
Just asking, not trying to get O.T.
Again, yes I would. I already stated that when I said I want Tim Tebow.
You act like he has never faced a top tier pass D. LSU, Georgia, Ohio St, Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think he has done pretty good against "top tier defenses."
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Psyblast 05:44 PM 11-01-2009
I honestly can't believe this thread exists.
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lilbently 05:46 PM 11-01-2009
Originally Posted by kehlis:
I don't get it.
What does that have anything to do with the question you responded to?
What? The guy was laughing when I said Tebow doesnt make mistakes. The one thing Tebow does is he does not turnover the ball, 15 int's over a career is remarkable.
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