If Boise State joined the MWC would it deserve an automatic BCS bid?

[MassNole]

What do you think?

If this were to happen I wouldn't see how the BCS could justify not giving the MWC an automatic BCS bid. The top four of that conference would be up there with any BCS conference.

[jts20]

Yeah I think it would replace the Big East. I'd take Boise St, Utah, TCU and BYU on a yearly basis over the top Big East teams.

[nccomicfan]

my personal thought? The easiest solution is conference expansion...Boise,Hawaii,Fresno and BYU to the Pac10(14) and Utah and TCU folded into the Big 12(14)...also ND to the Big Ten, with the NCAA insisting that all the BCS conferences have their own title games. I know it won't happen but without a playoff I think it's the best option

adding another automatic bid removes an at-large berth and I don't think that's good for College Football

[sven]

MWC only has 9 teams. You could add Boise St, Fresno St, and 3rd team and make it a 12 team league.

Or you could kick out whoever is the traditional cellar dweller and just add Boisie and Fresno to make a 10 team league.

[superjames1992]

Quote: Originally Posted by jts20

Yeah I think it would replace the Big East. I'd take Boise St, Utah, TCU and BYU on a yearly basis over the top Big East teams.

No, it wouldn't. The Big East has met every criteria to stay as a BCS conference and has easily surpassed the "Big East Rule".

And I wouldn't take Utah, Boise, TCU, or BYU over the top four in the Big East on a yearly basis. Last year? Yes. This year? Possibly, but I sure wouldn't take any MWC team over WVU in 2007 and Louisville, WVU, and Rutgers were a lot better than anyone in the MWC in 2006.

Let us review the MWC Standings since 2004.

2004:

Standings	Conference			Overall
	W-L	PF	PA	W-L	PF	PA	STRK
Utah	7-0	351	178	12-0	544	234	W12
New Mexico	5-2	136	125	7-5	244	224	L1
Brigham Young	4-3	200	171	5-6	267	295	L2
Wyoming	3-4	173	196	7-5	318	297	W1
Air Force	3-4	218	220	5-6	326	342	W1
Colorado State	3-4	182	201	4-7	261	325	L1
San Diego State	2-5	138	194	4-7	234	282	W2
UNLV	1-6	140	253	2-9	229	357	L5

Non-Conference Record: 17-17

2005:

Standings	Conference			Overall
	W-L	PF	PA	W-L	PF	PA	STRK
TCU	8-0	306	151	11-1	398	223	W10
Brigham Young	5-3	297	237	6-6	396	351	L2
Colorado State	5-3	197	210	6-6	321	369	L1
Utah	4-4	247	217	7-5	360	289	W2
New Mexico	4-4	230	250	6-5	326	327	-
San Diego State	4-4	206	184	5-7	323	325	-
Air Force	3-5	262	278	4-7	330	349	-
Wyoming	2-6	195	251	4-7	271	297	-
UNLV	1-7	135	297	2-9	207	381	-

Non-Conference Record: 12-14

2006:

Standings	Conference			Overall
	W-L	PF	PA	W-L	PF	PA	STRK
Brigham Young	8-0	317	113	11-2	478	191	W10
TCU	6-2	237	113	11-2	380	160	W8
Utah	5-3	232	171	8-5	363	258	W1
Wyoming	5-3	164	187	6-6	258	264	-
New Mexico	4-4	189	207	6-7	284	312	L1
Air Force	3-5	172	201	4-8	279	302	-
San Diego State	3-5	119	230	3-9	170	325	-
Colorado State	1-7	113	196	4-8	202	263	-
UNLV	1-7	158	283	2-10	238	382	-

Non-Conference Record: 17-18

2007:

Standings	Conference			Overall
	W-L	PF	PA	W-L	PF	PA	STRK
Brigham Young	8-0	248	129	11-2	391	241	W11
Air Force	6-2	228	164	9-4	389	274	L1
New Mexico	5-3	161	176	9-4	321	247	W2
Utah	5-3	177	104	9-4	341	219	W1
TCU	4-4	220	153	8-5	339	243	W3
San Diego State	3-5	196	265	4-8	301	413	-
Wyoming	2-6	130	233	5-7	233	311	-
Colorado State	2-6	179	232	3-9	304	369	-
UNLV	1-7	148	231	2-10	218	343	-

Non-Conference Record: 24-13

2008:

Standings	Conference			Overall
	W-L	PF	PA	W-L	PF	PA	STRK
Utah	8-0	298	125	13-0	480	224	W13
TCU	7-1	264	68	11-2	437	147	W2
Brigham Young	6-2	262	196	10-3	445	285	L2
Air Force	5-3	205	180	8-5	348	289	L3
Colorado State	4-4	212	233	7-6	327	393	W3
UNLV	2-6	196	274	5-7	307	391	-
New Mexico	2-6	146	137	4-8	253	273	-
Wyoming	1-7	86	248	4-8	152	333	-
San Diego State	1-7	136	344	2-10	231	446	-

Non-Conference Record: 25-12

The top three in the MWC could do well in a lot of BCS Conference, but after that, the bottom drops out. Colorado State, UNLB, New Mexico, Wyoming, and San Diego State are cupcakes. Air Force is decent. The bottom of the conference drags this conference down a lot.

The last two years, the MWC has played as a BCS-worthy conference, but the BCS Conference evaluation periods are four years in length.

Over the last five years, the MWC is 105-74 in non-conference games. That's decent and better than every other non-BCS conference, I believe, but every BCS Conference out there has performed quite a bit better than that.

And you all do know that there is room for another BCS automatic qualifier without stripping the bid from a current BCS Conference? That would be the most likely scenario. There are now five BCS games with the addition of the National Title Game, so that means that there are now four at-large spots, so I think that adding another automatic-qualifier wouldn't hurt.

[Primerica]

There no worst than the Pac 10 or Big Ten. In fact better than the Big Ten which is a joke.

[burnstuff]

Leave the conferences as they are and add playoffs.

[superjames1992]

Quote: Originally Posted by Primerica

There no worst than the Pac 10 or Big Ten. In fact better than the Big Ten which is a joke.

Three teams doesn't make a conference great.

Do you think Air Force, Wyoming, Colorado State, San Diego State, and UNLV are better than Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, and Minnesota?

The Big 10 has more depth than the MWC, which is the Achilles' Heel of the MWC.

[ndhusker90]

Penn State should be in the Big East and ND should move to the Big 10. Navy could also go to the Big East.
I agree with what the dude above said about expanding the conferences.

[Primerica]

Quote: Originally Posted by superjames1992

Three teams doesn't make a conference great. Do you think Air Force, Wyoming, Colorado State, San Diego State, and UNLV are better than Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, and Minnesota? The Big 10 has more depth than the MWC, which is the Achilles' Heel of the MWC.

Air Force has been solid over the last eight seasons. Colorado State has been solid as well especially with Gartrell Johnson who recently left for the NFL. SDSU sucks as well as Wyoming but they have been on par with Indiana and Northwestern of late.