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dorismary 04:43 PM 06-20-2009
[quote=Money99;2039730373]Lots of customizing of apparel.
And as you unlock achievements you gain stuff. I won my first pro win with a KO so I unlocked Tyson's towel as a robe.
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Hi
Is there a list of unlockables ?
Thanks [Reply]
Money99 07:22 PM 06-20-2009
[quote=dorismary;2039730621]

Originally Posted by Money99:
Lots of customizing of apparel.
And as you unlock achievements you gain stuff. I won my first pro win with a KO so I unlocked Tyson's towel as a robe.
quote]
Hi
Is there a list of unlockables ?
Thanks

Yes, there are unlockables. You can get Pacquio's shorts, Tyson's towel, stuff like that.

I'm not 100% sure what the difficulty level I'm on but I'm 2 below Greatest of All Time.

I've messed with a couple of camera angles. They don't look that much different from the default camera. Only slightly different angles. Like "High" shows the fight from a slightly higher angle but it doesn't seem to be any further away from the boxers.

I haven't messed with any sliders yet. But I might.
I still find the cross to be the weakest punch. The issue I have with messing with the power slider is two-fold:

1. It will only make the uppercuts and hooks more powerful.
2. The game is still mostly an offensive boxing simulation. You're going to see a lot more punches thrown in this game than in real life. And defenses of fighters are more suspect than they are in real.

I might play with the accuracy as well as the power sliders so that more punches aren't direct hits but ones that are, will be more effective.

But right now, I'm still just getting the hang of the Legacy Mode.

In my last fight, I went all 10 rounds. It was an "ESPN" broadcast and I chose to fight another undefeated prospect. He was 3-0(3) and had very good stats, including heavy hands.
It was easily the best fight I"ve had yet with the game and very tense.

This was the first fight where I had to 'waste' rounds. My stamina would get low and my health was at about 60% in the 7th round. So I wanted to recover and build up for the championship rounds. My opponent was very strong and would hurt me with a lot of well placed shots. He stunned me a number of times and I had to hold quite a bit just to survive.

But I was able to keep him mostly to the parameter with my jab and mix it up from time to time.

Finally, in the last round, with both of us having very little stamina and health left, we both seemed to paw at each other. I didn't want to risk the decision I knew I was going to win. But then, with 50 seconds left in the round, I caught him with a big hook. He was staggard and I went in for the kill. My stamina was basically down to nothing, but I kept throwing lazy, inaccurate shots at him. Finally, with his health only a sliver, I nailed him with a liver shot, followed by a right-cross. Down he went.
Unfortunately for me, he was saved by the bell but it looked as if he wouldn't have gotten up if the rules were different. It was the only knockdown of the fight.

After winning a unanomous decision, the fight was marked as an "ESPN Classic". So I can go back and look at stats from that fight.

In other news, Thomas Hearns retained his belt and Sugar Ray Leonard was able to win a belt as well.
Tyson's still undefeated and I won the award for best newcomer.

After this 10 round war it looks like I'm going to have to take off the next 2 months to recover.

And I suck at the mini games. Oy vay. I might as well have the CPU do it for me as I'm not getting a lot of stats doing it myself. [Reply]
Money99 07:26 PM 06-20-2009
Sorry I haven't been giving the most detail in my post.
I really haven't had as much time with the game as I'd like because it's fathers day weekend and it's pretty hectic around here.

All I can say is that the game is a lot of fun. The most fun I've had with a boxing game ever.

The one complaint I have right now in the Legacy Mode is that you can't have multiple careers going on at once. That blows.

But the developers said that they'd look into this for Round 5. [Reply]
StonesRunIt 07:41 PM 06-20-2009
[quote=Money99;2039731107]

Originally Posted by dorismary:

Yes, there are unlockables. You can get Pacquio's shorts, Tyson's towel, stuff like that.

I'm not 100% sure what the difficulty level I'm on but I'm 2 below Greatest of All Time.

I've messed with a couple of camera angles. They don't look that much different from the default camera. Only slightly different angles. Like "High" shows the fight from a slightly higher angle but it doesn't seem to be any further away from the boxers.

I haven't messed with any sliders yet. But I might.
I still find the cross to be the weakest punch. The issue I have with messing with the power slider is two-fold:

1. It will only make the uppercuts and hooks more powerful.
2. The game is still mostly an offensive boxing simulation. You're going to see a lot more punches thrown in this game than in real life. And defenses of fighters are more suspect than they are in real.

I might play with the accuracy as well as the power sliders so that more punches aren't direct hits but ones that are, will be more effective.

But right now, I'm still just getting the hang of the Legacy Mode.

In my last fight, I went all 10 rounds. It was an "ESPN" broadcast and I chose to fight another undefeated prospect. He was 3-0(3) and had very good stats, including heavy hands.
It was easily the best fight I"ve had yet with the game and very tense.

This was the first fight where I had to 'waste' rounds. My stamina would get low and my health was at about 60% in the 7th round. So I wanted to recover and build up for the championship rounds. My opponent was very strong and would hurt me with a lot of well placed shots. He stunned me a number of times and I had to hold quite a bit just to survive.

But I was able to keep him mostly to the parameter with my jab and mix it up from time to time.

Finally, in the last round, with both of us having very little stamina and health left, we both seemed to paw at each other. I didn't want to risk the decision I knew I was going to win. But then, with 50 seconds left in the round, I caught him with a big hook. He was staggard and I went in for the kill. My stamina was basically down to nothing, but I kept throwing lazy, inaccurate shots at him. Finally, with his health only a sliver, I nailed him with a liver shot, followed by a right-cross. Down he went.
Unfortunately for me, he was saved by the bell but it looked as if he wouldn't have gotten up if the rules were different. It was the only knockdown of the fight.

After winning a unanomous decision, the fight was marked as an "ESPN Classic". So I can go back and look at stats from that fight.

In other news, Thomas Hearns retained his belt and Sugar Ray Leonard was able to win a belt as well.
Tyson's still undefeated and I won the award for best newcomer.

After this 10 round war it looks like I'm going to have to take off the next 2 months to recover.

And I suck at the mini games. Oy vay. I might as well have the CPU do it for me as I'm not getting a lot of stats doing it myself.

so the IS an accuracy slider? [Reply]
HustlinOwl 07:48 PM 06-20-2009
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phillyfan23 08:02 PM 06-20-2009

Originally Posted by Money99:
I haven't messed with any sliders yet. But I might.
I still find the cross to be the weakest punch. The issue I have with messing with the power slider is two-fold:

1. It will only make the uppercuts and hooks more powerful.
2. The game is still mostly an offensive boxing simulation. You're going to see a lot more punches thrown in this game than in real life. And defenses of fighters are more suspect than they are in real.


man I have less and less faith on this DEV team.

First they didn't include a haymaker cross punch which will make ALL fighter's strongest punches the hooks and uppercuts by default.

and now the power slider ONLY affects the hook and uppercut. For a team to tout SIM this and REALISM that...this is just inexcusable.

it's a double whammy and basically renders the power slider useless for this game if you want any semblance of boxing realism.

Anyone watch the Klitschko fight today? what was his money punch and always is his money punch ? The cross, but if they had him in the game, he would only KO people using hooks and UC and he rarely throws them.

They can make all the fighter styles as varied as they want, but this is a fatal mistake as far as I'm concerned. The only way this game can be saved for me is if they add a haymaker cross via dlc....

Very disappointing.

also money what level you playing ? if you find the CPU defense lacking, you should max out their def. awareness slider. But again, if you do this the game might become too imbalanced since there will be a lack of punches that connect and not enough KOs KDs.

also try to reduce the punch output slider by the cpu to reduce their punch amount....but then again it might lead to imbalance since not enough cpu punches will land on you and cause damage.

Thanks to the idiotic design of the power slider.....

sorry for being overly harsh, but that's how i feel.

maybe the toughness slider reduced will lead to more damage from punches for both cpu and user, but then again, maybe the fighters are less tough only for the hooks and uppercuts. I wouldn't be surprised.

pathetic [Reply]
fistofrage 08:15 PM 06-20-2009
What are the punch stats like per round?

Can you adjust the the rounds to be 2 minutes in Legacy? Accelerated clock option? [Reply]
cjallure24 08:24 PM 06-20-2009

Originally Posted by phillyfan23:
man I have less and less faith on this DEV team.

First they didn't include a haymaker cross punch which will make ALL fighter's strongest punches the hooks and uppercuts by default.

and now the power slider ONLY affects the hook and uppercut. For a team to tout SIM this and REALISM that...this is just inexcusable.

it's a double whammy and basically renders the power slider useless for this game if you want any semblance of boxing realism.

Anyone watch the Klitschko fight today? what was his money punch and always is his money punch ? The cross, but if they had him in the game, he would only KO people using hooks and UC and he rarely throws them.

They can make all the fighter styles as varied as they want, but this is a fatal mistake as far as I'm concerned. The only way this game can be saved for me is if they add a haymaker cross via dlc....

Very disappointing.

also money what level you playing ? if you find the CPU defense lacking, you should max out their def. awareness slider. But again, if you do this the game might become too imbalanced since there will be a lack of punches that connect and not enough KOs KDs.

also try to reduce the punch output slider by the cpu to reduce their punch amount....but then again it might lead to imbalance since not enough cpu punches will land on you and cause damage.

Thanks to the idiotic design of the power slider.....

sorry for being overly harsh, but that's how i feel.

maybe the toughness slider reduced will lead to more damage from punches for both cpu and user, but then again, maybe the fighters are less tough for the hooks and uppercuts. I wouldn't be surprised.

pathetic


I watched the Klitschko fight, he basically kept Chagaev at bay with the Jab likehe does majority of his opponents. Klitschko to me threw the jab then double up on the jab and follow it with a straight right hand down the middle, thats how he knocked Chagaev down in the 2nd.

As far as the haymaker hook and that being taking out is kind of a dagger, cause I kept trying to throw it in the demo and it was a regular hook. Sometimes in fights I would rely on the haymaker because I knew it would bring me back if I landed one or two big shots, as much as I used it in previous fight nights, I felt like it was cheese, but IDK, I have to put in the reps myself to see how it feels.

I can see where your fustration comes in though homie....... [Reply]
TheCreep 08:30 PM 06-20-2009
Man, they just have to have some type of swing camera in there, they have to.

I need the camera angle where you are not always on the same side of the screen ya know. I like to move around the ring real time, I dont like being stuck on the left or right side of the screen the whole time.

Man they better NOT have taken out my swing cam. No. If the swing cam or something equivalent aint there, they need to get it in as DLC or something.

I think swing cam is for the real pros at this ****. [Reply]
phillyfan23 08:38 PM 06-20-2009

Originally Posted by cjallure24:
I watched the Klitschko fight, he basically kept Chagaev at bay with the Jab likehe does majority of his opponents. Klitschko to me threw the jab then double up on the jab and follow it with a straight right hand down the middle, thats how he knocked Chagaev down in the 2nd.

As far as the haymaker hook and that being taking out is kind of a dagger, cause I kept trying to throw it in the demo and it was a regular hook. Sometimes in fights I would rely on the haymaker because I knew it would bring me back if I landed one or two big shots, as much as I used it in previous fight nights, I felt like it was cheese, but IDK, I have to put in the reps myself to see how it feels.

I can see where your fustration comes in though homie.......


no i dont think the haymaker HOOK is taken out, the issue is to not have the haymaker CROSS. it's not in the demo and it won't be in retail version.

And you described the Klitschko fight to a tee, jab jab STRAIGHT. Chagaev was hurt slightly by the jab and demolished by the Cross. Now you tell me, if say a Klitschko type is in the game ( guy whose bread and butter is the cross)...why on earth would you try to use your cross when you know that the haymaker hook will give 3-4 times damage on the opponent. You WON'T unless you want to force the game being "sim" and "realistic".

This will also affect the style of fight you need to use to be succesful. Say you're a Lennox Lewis fighting Tyson....what should be your strategy? stay a safe distance and rake Tyson with jabs and straights right? well that's not useful because the straigh punch is nerfed. So to land damage, Lennox has to sacrifice his reach and height advantage and come inside to hurt Tyson. Throws the whole strategy aspect out the window. No wonder people complain that the game is too catered to inside fighters....because it is.

whatever.....money please tell me the toughness slider has good effects man....hopefully with that minimized, it will be possible to one punch KO someone using a cross. [Reply]
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