SQL Classics Official Thread

[skidsboroff]

tjspeaks, you need to change your offense. We just played, and not only did the 89 Niners never run 4 wide, they certainly never ran trips or split Brent Jones out at WR. Did you even attempt to replicate their offense or did you just port your current one?

You have been accused of a few things on these boards, and you're not doing anything to dispell the things that have been said about you. If you wanted to run a spread offense with trips and 4 wide, you should have been a different team.

We all agreed to run authentic offenses, and I think we need to do so. If you are having problems running the offense of the team you selected, practice more and adjust your style. That goes for all of us. Anyone who has played my Colts knows the Offense is authentic, even though it certainly does not give me an advantage.

[tjspeaks]

Quote: Originally Posted by skidsboroff

tjspeaks, you need to change your offense. We just played, and not only did the 89 Niners never run 4 wide, they certainly never ran trips or split Brent Jones out at WR. Did you even attempt to replicate their offense or did you just port your current one? You have been accused of a few things on these boards, and you're not doing anything to dispell the things that have been said about you. If you wanted to run a spread offense with trips and 4 wide, you should have been a different team. We all agreed to run authentic offenses, and I think we need to do so. If you are having problems running the offense of the team you selected, practice more and adjust your style. That goes for all of us. Anyone who has played my Colts knows the Offense is authentic, even though it certainly does not give me an advantage.

Please name one legitimate thing I have ever been accused of on this board or any board.

As far as playing with a classic team the exact way they played... the only team I watched every play of every game was the 2000 Ravens. Any other team I can only go by the stats which I did with this team. If you want me to run an exact offense with any team except the Ravens, I can't do it (neither can most guys - some of these teams played when we were kids. Our memories are limited to highlights). If you don't want me to play, just let me know. If someone watched the 1989 49ers games, fill me in and I'll try to match it, no problem.

[FootballSchemer]

Quote: Originally Posted by tjspeaks

Please name one legitimate thing I have ever been accused of on this board or any board. As far as playing with a classic team the exact way they played... the only team I watched every play of every game was the 2000 Ravens. Any other team I can only go by the stats which I did with this team. If you want me to run an exact offense with any team except the Ravens, I can't do it (neither can most guys - some of these teams played when we were kids. Our memories are limited to highlights). If you don't want me to play, just let me know. If someone watched the 1989 49ers games, fill me in and I'll try to match it, no problem.

West Coast Offense?? Come on now... That style was named after them by the big tuna himself... Just do some research, good news for u iso's work great in pro set

[tjspeaks]

Quote: Originally Posted by FootballSchemer

West Coast Offense?? Come on now... That style was named after them by the big tuna himself... Just do some research, good news for u iso's work great in pro set

Most leagues frown upon running the same formation all the time. If you guys want me to run every play out of variations of the pro offense I can. I only watch the local team and never other games. I will admit my ignorance about almost every team except the local team (Ravens & 70s, 80s Baltimore Colts). Could I run an offense exactly like the 80s Colts? No, it's been too long.

I have been in 50 leagues and will play anyway the league decides. Feel free to call me ignorant, but not non-compliant.

[The15thunter]

i just joined, glad to be in.

hit me up if you wanna scrimmage sometime, fellas.

[skidsboroff]

http://www.operationsports.com/skids...-sql-59-colts/

For the inaugural SQL season, I've selected to go with the 1959 Baltimore Colts. I originally was looking into the 66 Packers, but they were taken, and I love me some Johnny U.

The '59 Colts were the second of back to back NFL Champions, defeating the New York Giants in the title game for the second consecutive season. The stars you know: Johhny Unitas, Raymond Berry, Art "Fatso" Donovan, Gino Marchetti, Jim Parker. All five of them Golds, so it was a tough task to replicate this amazing roster.
Here it is with an explanation of why each player is where they're at:

G: Johnny Unitas, QB. An easy selection. The leader of the team, and one of the NFL's most iconic figures. And he is one of the most accurately depicted players in the game, IMO. Gotta love that release and those black shoes.

G: Raymond Berry, WR. Thought about relegating Berry to a Silver, but after watching "The greatest game ever played" by ESPN, and some videos on him and Unitas on NFL.com, he had to be a Gold. Again, he's so accurately depicted. He's unstoppable if used correctly, even against Gold CB's.

S: Gino Marchetti, DE. Somebody had to be relegated. So far he's the least satisfactory of my CAPs on here. He has Pass Rush Bonus and Rip. He'll get decent pressure, and he makes the DE up of my 3 star line.

S: Alan Ameche, HB. Tried him out at Bronze FB, then Bronze HB, then Silver FB. None of those spots replicated his running ability. He carried the load for the Colts. He'll play feature back and FB in my offense with Strength Bonus and Bulldozer.

S: Lenny Moore, WR/RB. Here's the X-factor of my offense. He did EVERYTHING as a Colt. He played WR, HB, FB, and Wingback, and occasionally returned kicks. For this reason, he will be everywhere for me as well. If you see him in a spot you think he shouldn't be, trust me he lined up there.

B: Art "Fatso" Donovan, DT. The reason he gets demoted all the way down to Bronze is this: as a Bronze he is not much different than he was at Silver. So therefore, I dropped him, and it made my whole team more accurate. He possesses Leadership in my team.

B: Jim Parker, LT. Second guy I'm disappointed in. My line leaves something to be desired, but what are you going to do when you have 5 golds? He has Brick Wall.

B: Eugene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb, DT. Regarded as one of the fastest big men of all time, and the fastest DL in the league at that time. He fittingly has Speed Burner This guy was a character, and loved to party, leading to his tragic death in the prime of his career, (from Wikipedia).

On May 10, 1963, Eugene Lipscomb's 10 year NFL career and life ended. After a night of drinking and partying with two women, Lipscomb collapsed in a kitchen in Baltimore. He had overdosed on heroin. According to the Sports Illustrated profile, the city's assistant medical examiner, Dr. Rudiger Breitenecker, found enough dope inside him to have killed five men. Lipscomb died in the ambulance at the age of 31.

B: Andy Nelson, FS. An all-pro that season, Andy Nelson was an exceptional athlete and the leader of the defensive backfield. He recorded 6 int's that season, so he has Ball Hawk. 1959 was his best season as a professional (he did make the Pro Bowl once, in 1960).

B: Johnny "The Jet" Sample, DB. He's listed as a SS on my team, but will switch between all the DB spots. He was the return man on this Colts team, and famously returned an interception for a touchdown in the NFL Championship game that broke the backs of the Giants. He was a very popular player in those days, and was extremely fast. I was going to give him Speed Burner, but he fumbled several KO's, so I decided to give him Return Specialist, and it has worked out nicely.

B: Don Shinnick, LB. In 1959 Don Shinnick moved from MLB to OLB, which is where he's listed. In old footage of that 1958 NFL Championship game, he was very active and played both inside and outside. He was also an excellent pass defender, so he has Coverage Bonus.


I was forced to leave off several excellent players, but the overall feel of the team is very accurate. I will say that not all the identifiers for the positional sets in-game will be perfect. All you guys really need to know is that Lenny Moore, Raymond Berry, and Alan Ameche will be on the field every play unless they get too tired. My offensive system isn't complicated so there aren't any positional exploits happening.

There is no Shotgun in a 1959 offense. It's just Pro Set, Far/Near, and I-form variations. That's it. Anyone who has played me with this team can attest.

I look forward to playing everyone this season. It's gonna be fun.

[skidsboroff]

Quote: Originally Posted by tjspeaks

Most leagues frown upon running the same formation all the time. If you guys want me to run every play out of variations of the pro offense I can. I only watch the local team and never other games. I will admit my ignorance about almost every team except the local team (Ravens & 70s, 80s Baltimore Colts). Could I run an offense exactly like the 80s Colts? No, it's been too long. I have been in 50 leagues and will play anyway the league decides. Feel free to call me ignorant, but not non-compliant.

It's quintissential West Coast Offense. Pro Set, Far/Near, etc. Watch any 80's 49ers videos, and you can google West Coast Offense.

This drive is all you need to know about that 49ers passing offense. There is one 4 wide play in there, but it's a draw. They ran that maybe 2% of the time.
All these clips are from that year's NFC Championship Game. The whole thing is on youtube (there are 14 segments). You probably have more video evidence to run their offense than any of us have for ours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKl1v...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDOW...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVe8fJgb5vQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMdGTcOnDT4

Enjoy the Japanese

[tjspeaks]

thx for the info and vid. I can/will do that.

[FootballSchemer]

Everyone join?

[elgreazy1]

I think you guys are waiting on me. I had to drop my team because I put someone else in for Harper instead. My bad. I'll re-join in a few minutes.