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Quote: Originally Posted by The Autumn Wind

For the record, I've cleared this thread topic with Millenium, who has given it the green light so long as discussion remains civilized. Please let's do that. No ad hominem or reductio ad absurdum, please. What I want to discuss is the general reactions to Madden by APF fans. What are those of us who have played this game and loved it feeling/thinking about Madden? To focus the discussion, I'll ask a few starter questions, and we'll see where it goes. 1) Do you think APF will remain relevant after Madden drops; i.e. will it still get serious gaming time from you. 2) What have you seen from Madden 10 that makes you say "they moved the sport forward" just like you saw APF and said "they moved 2k5 forward"? 3) What still seems to stand out about APF from the evidence we have so far about Madden? 4) Are you planning on spending serious time with Madden 10? 5) This one is purely for self-interest: how many would be interested in an online franchise with APF players--in other words, playing online in Madden with guys who play APF whom we know are real football-heads? So there goes. Talk amongst yourselves.

1. NFL 2k5 Gets more of my gaming time nowadays (I played APF nonstop for a year).

2. Honestly, nothing. 2k5 set too high of a standard for presentation. The new Pro-Tak system, is the biggest joke I have seen so far. I love how it is being sooooooo hyped. If I want a good engine for tackles, I will go with Backbreaker.

3. The Pocket looks much better to me in APF. The natural player movement as well. Madden players still move like robots. Look at Sanchez's feet in this vid:
Madden NFL 10 Video: A Little Jets/Seahawks Gameplay

They shuffle like he is on ice.

4. No.

5. Maybe. With the engine Madden runs on, doubtfully. I prefer to enjoy a true football experience in APF.

*Just for consideration*

I am extremely excited to see what Backbreaker can bring to the table. That is a game that I am excited for. I need a new, fresh take on football.