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Quote: Originally Posted by Obelysk

I am sorry but you are the one that needs to go back and watch the film again. In the Giants Super Bowl Brady drove down the field and scored a TD to givve us the lead with over 2 minutes left in the game. What did the Giants do? They drove down the field and scored a TD and only left us with 35 seconds to score a TD. Yeah because we all know that 35 seconds is an eternity to go drive down the field again and score another TD with that pedestrian unit that the Giants call a defense. Also its Brady's fault that the defense cughed up over 30 points in the second half againts the Colts in the Championship game too right? Heck he scored 34 points with bug eyes Cadwell and Gaffney as his 2 top WRs that game. Brady scored 21 on the Eagles and the only reason why we need a late field goal to win was because Viniteri had actually missed a field goal early in the game.Check again, ever since Brady has been our starter in the post season we score 24.70 points a game. Our offense has not be an issue .

35 seconds is plenty of time to score a TD. Ask Joe Montana.

As for Viniatari, he has gone on to win ANOTHER Superbowl with the Colts. Since his departure Brady has not won the Superbowl.

Quote: Originally Posted by Obelysk

That is true, but we had lost games where the defense has chocked in the playoffs. Ironically enough the games that we should have lost because Brady performed bad we have actually won (like the Chargers in 2006).

You're just dogging your defense to make Tom look good. They were an outstanding unit during those SB runs, and slammed the door on some very good teams.

Quote: Originally Posted by Obelysk

He was sitting in our offense for 4 YEARS! 4, is not like we picked him off the streets. Besides he inherited a team that broke the offensive scoring record in the NFL. The team that was 35 seconds away from being perfect and consodered the "greates team of all time." The team Cassel played for was not the 2008 Lions and last I checked we didn't even make the post season.

He had very little playing time, and had not started a game since high school. And guess what, his numbers were very similar (and in stretches better) than Tom's were during that 2001 season.

Face it, dude. It's the system, not Tom. It's Bellicheck and his staff. Not Tom. Tom was just in the right place at the right time with the right butt-chin to make the 12 year old girls swoon.

Quote: Originally Posted by Obelysk

Which is something he never had in his whole career and his still won 3 super bowls. Truth is Brady does not need Moss, he never did. Moss was clearly an improvement to our team but never a necessity.

He needed Moss to put up those huge numbers and go 16-0 in the regular season. He did not need Randy to win a SB. Why? Because the TEAM won those Superbowls, not Tom.