Oh yeah, I'm not debating that, at all. EA is still living off innovations made on ps1. What I'm saying is the game is overrated, it's a great game and it's fun to play, but it's not like the game is perfect. The consensus on this message board is that the game is perfect and if you disagree, you're an EA fanboy. This game is on the level of MVP 05 (pc) for me. If it wasn't the last one released and if it weren't for the mods the community did, would people still think this game is great?