Webmaster Volunteer Needed

Ben E Lou · 12-01-2006, 10:13 AM

UPDATE: We now have a volunteer, lordscarlet (wade moore's brother). For more discussion, go to this thread:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/....php?p=1325114

lordscarlet · 12-01-2006, 03:32 PM

Since everyone is jumping at the chance, I'll cautiously step my toe up to the line. I would love to be the webmaster for the league. Having said that, I have to admit that as a league I would start it as a trial basis. Sometimes I get so swamped with life/etc that things can fall to the wayside. Having said that, with Wade being actively involved I don't think he would let that happen.

My proposal would be this: At least get an initial site from me before you sign on the dotted line. I would love to put together all of the dynamic stuff that I know some leagues have, and it would give me a good chance to dig into a programming language that I'm trying to start using (Ruby). I have an account that allows me 200GB of storage, including MySQL databases and unlimited domains. I am more than willing to put the site there, and give FTP/etc access to anyone that would require it so you know something can go up on short notice, even if I'm unavailable. It also has "One-click install" of phpBB.

Anyway, if one of you would rather do it because you know you're more reliable, then go for it. I'm more than willing to do what I can, but I don't want to end up letting you down. That's my only reason for not jumping in head first.

Ben E Lou · 12-01-2006, 05:33 PM

Thanks Doug! I'm down for this if others are.

cartman · 12-01-2006, 05:48 PM

Not sure how big the league files are gonna be, but how much in the way of transfer traffic are you allowed each month? I have 30TB allotted to me with my account, and the BBCF college league uses 8 to 10GB per month. Which after editing isn't that much.

edit: nevermind, I was off by a factor of 1000 on my bandwidth calc....

If he wants to give this a try, I'm all for it as well.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-01-2006, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Thanks Doug! I'm down for this if others are.

I'm definitely down for Doug being the webmaster. Very gracious of him to volunteer.

RedKingGold · 12-01-2006, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Since everyone is jumping at the chance, I'll cautiously step my toe up to the line. I would love to be the webmaster for the league. Having said that, I have to admit that as a league I would start it as a trial basis. Sometimes I get so swamped with life/etc that things can fall to the wayside. Having said that, with Wade being actively involved I don't think he would let that happen.

My proposal would be this: At least get an initial site from me before you sign on the dotted line. I would love to put together all of the dynamic stuff that I know some leagues have, and it would give me a good chance to dig into a programming language that I'm trying to start using (Ruby). I have an account that allows me 200GB of storage, including MySQL databases and unlimited domains. I am more than willing to put the site there, and give FTP/etc access to anyone that would require it so you know something can go up on short notice, even if I'm unavailable. It also has "One-click install" of phpBB.

Anyway, if one of you would rather do it because you know you're more reliable, then go for it. I'm more than willing to do what I can, but I don't want to end up letting you down. That's my only reason for not jumping in head first.

You had me from hello, lordscarlet.

You had me from hello

WELCOME ABOARD!

wade moore · 12-01-2006, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

Not sure how big the league files are gonna be, but how much in the way of transfer traffic are you allowed each month? I have 30TB allotted to me with my account, and the BBCF college league uses 8 to 10GB per month. Which after editing isn't that much.

edit: nevermind, I was off by a factor of 1000 on my bandwidth calc....

If he wants to give this a try, I'm all for it as well.

If bandwidth becomes a problem with file sizes, I imagine we could always use your space for files and his server space cause of Ruby?

CraigSca · 12-01-2006, 10:39 PM

Doug,

Just playing devil's advocate -- Will the use of Ruby preclude someone else taking over if your situation should change?

lordscarlet · 12-02-2006, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

Not sure how big the league files are gonna be, but how much in the way of transfer traffic are you allowed each month? I have 30TB allotted to me with my account, and the BBCF college league uses 8 to 10GB per month. Which after editing isn't that much.

edit: nevermind, I was off by a factor of 1000 on my bandwidth calc....

If he wants to give this a try, I'm all for it as well.

I have 2000 GB of Bandwidth allowance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Doug,

Just playing devil's advocate -- Will the use of Ruby preclude someone else taking over if your situation should change?

The quick answer: yes.

Having said that, anything could preclude someone else using it. But your point is that if I used php more people are familiar with it. That is a very good point, and I could try to use php, but I haven't used it in years and don't plan to use it for anything else, so I'd be less gung-ho. However, that is definitely something to consider. If it's a huge concern I can go for it with php instead.

Narcizo · 12-02-2006, 01:03 PM

He obviously knows what he's talking about (I got lost at php) so I think it's a great idea.

wade moore · 12-02-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

The quick answer: yes.

Having said that, anything could preclude someone else using it. But your point is that if I used php more people are familiar with it. That is a very good point, and I could try to use php, but I haven't used it in years and don't plan to use it for anything else, so I'd be less gung-ho. However, that is definitely something to consider. If it's a huge concern I can go for it with php instead.

I would imagine that when you're talking about some of this stuff that someone else jumping in is a problem no matter what when you get past .html. The IHOF site is done in php, but I would imagine that someone else coming in and trying to make chagnes, etc. would have no chance at it at this stage anyways unless VPI is taking TONS of time documenting his code. So, I guess what I'm saying is that if we're talking about going above and beyond just the html, this is an obstacle we face no matter who is doing it or what code they are using.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

He obviously knows what he's talking about (I got lost at php) so I think it's a great idea.

It's his career, so I would hope he knows what he's talking about

...

Ben E Lou · 12-02-2006, 02:55 PM

I saw let lordscarlet run with it, and if he decides to quit and it screws us up, we beat the crap out of wade.

gstelmack · 12-02-2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

I saw let lordscarlet run with it, and if he decides to quit and it screws us up, we beat the crap out of wade.

Second!

lordscarlet · 12-03-2006, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

I saw let lordscarlet run with it, and if he decides to quit and it screws us up, we beat the crap out of wade.

OK, I'll do it.

I quit. Commence beating.

stevew · 12-03-2006, 02:59 AM

Is it going to be one of those Tomax and Xamot type things where when we beat wade, you feel pain too?

(how's that for an old school reference GI Joe Fans)

wade moore · 12-03-2006, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

Is it going to be one of those Tomax and Xamot type things where when we beat wade, you feel pain too?

(how's that for an old school reference GI Joe Fans)

As a twin growing up in the 80's/90's it is a reference that never gets old...

no...

really...

i swear...

It's not old...

lordscarlet · 12-03-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

Is it going to be one of those Tomax and Xamot type things where when we beat wade, you feel pain too?

(how's that for an old school reference GI Joe Fans)

Yes, definitely. I promise.. I'll feel it... So hit him extra hard.

wade moore · 12-03-2006, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Yes, definitely. I promise.. I'll feel it... So hit him extra hard.

So, uhh... a certain large, black man has asked me if you were joking or serious about officially taking on this responsibility...

So what da dilly?

lordscarlet · 12-04-2006, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

So, uhh... a certain large, black man has asked me if you were joking or serious about officially taking on this responsibility...

So what da dilly?

Quite serious. As I stated in the other thread, I was messing with it this weekend on the flight home from Nashville. Nothing major done, but I'm definitely in for it. It looks like you guys are starting the season in 10-15 days. I don't know what I can get done by then, but I will do my best to have something.

RedKingGold · 12-04-2006, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Quite serious. As I stated in the other thread, I was messing with it this weekend on the flight home from Nashville. Nothing major done, but I'm definitely in for it. It looks like you guys are starting the season in 10-15 days. I don't know what I can get done by then, but I will do my best to have something.

Keep in mind that FOF2K7 does provide an HTML output of stats/rosters/a who bunch of other little goodies/, etc.

I know that you don't have the game yet, but maybe Wade can send you an example of what is generated in-game (to make your life a little bit easier)

Ben E Lou · 12-04-2006, 09:27 AM

Thanks, Doug!

wade moore · 12-04-2006, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Keep in mind that FOF2K7 does provide an HTML output of stats/rosters/a who bunch of other little goodies/, etc.

I know that you don't have the game yet, but maybe Wade can send you an example of what is generated in-game (to make your life a little bit easier)

http://thesuperleague.net/fofsite/2006standings.html

You can get to all of the game output from here - this is a 2k7 league that has already started.

I think what we'd be looking for in 10-15 days as a minimum/hopeful would be:

Forum
Place to upload files

I think that's the bare minimum to get the league up and running. If we had a frontpage where we could list owners etc that would be good - but I think something that if push came to shove we could wait for..

Can anyone think of anything else we'd need for a bare minimum?

Narcizo · 12-04-2006, 09:43 AM

Maybe we should put together some sort of list with features and prioritise the stuff. (stuff like access to the box scores - which come in the HTML export now) and whatnot.

As a bare minimum a forum, upload and download feature are probably all that's necessary.

RedKingGold · 12-04-2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

Can anyone think of anything else we'd need for a bare minimum?

Echoing others, all I think we need from the outset is just a forum and place to upload/download files.

lordscarlet · 12-04-2006, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

http://thesuperleague.net/fofsite/2006standings.html

You can get to all of the game output from here - this is a 2k7 league that has already started.

Ugh. I need to have a talk with Jim or whatever his name is. (The author of FOF)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

I think what we'd be looking for in 10-15 days as a minimum/hopeful would be:

Forum
Place to upload files

I think that's the bare minimum to get the league up and running. If we had a frontpage where we could list owners etc that would be good - but I think something that if push came to shove we could wait for..

Can anyone think of anything else we'd need for a bare minimum?

I started the forum install process and push comes to shove we can just setup FTP as the upload process for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Maybe we should put together some sort of list with features and prioritise the stuff. (stuff like access to the box scores - which come in the HTML export now) and whatnot.

As a bare minimum a forum, upload and download feature are probably all that's necessary.

I already asked Wade for this since he is a Project Manager by trade.

I suppose a group effort would be better, though.

Edit: http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/....php?p=1325114

wade moore · 12-04-2006, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Ugh. I need to have a talk with Jim or whatever his name is. (The author of FOF)

n00b...

... I would not anticipate any changes to the .html output any time soon.

Quote:

I started the forum install process and push comes to shove we can just setup FTP as the upload process for now.

I think you will be surprised at the umm... lack of technical accumen amongst FOF leagues as a whole. That being said, I think Jim built some sort of FTP Tool that is available on his website, I'll check.

Quote:

I already asked Wade for this since he is a Project Manager by trade.

I suppose a group effort would be better, though.

I was busy playing with pretty pictures.

lordscarlet · 12-04-2006, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

n00b...

... I would not anticipate any changes to the .html output any time soon.

I would just like to see up-to-date tags (no FONT tag), lowercased tags, and no styles within the html, only class="" tags so that it can all be modified via a stylesheet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

I think you will be surprised at the umm... lack of technical accumen amongst FOF leagues as a whole. That being said, I think Jim built some sort of FTP Tool that is available on his website, I'll check.

Probably... But if I don't get an upload form before then...

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

I was busy playing with pretty pictures.

Tell Robyn to hide the aluminum foil.

Ben E Lou · 12-04-2006, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

I think you will be surprised at the umm... lack of technical accumen amongst FOF leagues as a whole. That being said, I think Jim built some sort of FTP Tool that is available on his website, I'll check.

For example, some people apparently aren't aware that you don't need to download an FTP tool to use FTP sites.

You can just use IE (or Firefox, with the appropriate extensions.)

wade moore · 12-04-2006, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

For example, some people apparently aren't aware that you don't need to download an FTP tool to use FTP sites.

You can just use IE (or Firefox, with the appropriate extensions.)

*I* know that

... But a lot of others don't...

12-01-2006, 03:32 PM	#2
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	Since everyone is jumping at the chance, I'll cautiously step my toe up to the line. I would love to be the webmaster for the league. Having said that, I have to admit that as a league I would start it as a trial basis. Sometimes I get so swamped with life/etc that things can fall to the wayside. Having said that, with Wade being actively involved I don't think he would let that happen. My proposal would be this: At least get an initial site from me before you sign on the dotted line. I would love to put together all of the dynamic stuff that I know some leagues have, and it would give me a good chance to dig into a programming language that I'm trying to start using (Ruby). I have an account that allows me 200GB of storage, including MySQL databases and unlimited domains. I am more than willing to put the site there, and give FTP/etc access to anyone that would require it so you know something can go up on short notice, even if I'm unavailable. It also has "One-click install" of phpBB. Anyway, if one of you would rather do it because you know you're more reliable, then go for it. I'm more than willing to do what I can, but I don't want to end up letting you down. That's my only reason for not jumping in head first. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

12-01-2006, 05:33 PM	#3
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Souf Cackalacky	Thanks Doug! I'm down for this if others are. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

12-01-2006, 05:48 PM	#4
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Not sure how big the league files are gonna be, but how much in the way of transfer traffic are you allowed each month? I have 30TB allotted to me with my account, and the BBCF college league uses 8 to 10GB per month. Which after editing isn't that much. edit: nevermind, I was off by a factor of 1000 on my bandwidth calc.... If he wants to give this a try, I'm all for it as well. __________________ It's no use, he sees her, he starts to shake and cough. Just like the old man in that book by Nabokov. Last edited by cartman : 12-01-2006 at 06:51 PM.

12-01-2006, 10:39 PM	#8
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Delaware	Doug, Just playing devil's advocate -- Will the use of Ruby preclude someone else taking over if your situation should change? __________________ Matthew 10:32-33

12-02-2006, 02:55 PM	#12
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Souf Cackalacky	I saw let lordscarlet run with it, and if he decides to quit and it screws us up, we beat the crap out of wade. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

12-02-2006, 01:03 PM	#10
Narcizo College Starter Join Date: Jan 2006	He obviously knows what he's talking about (I got lost at php) so I think it's a great idea.

12-03-2006, 02:59 AM	#15
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Is it going to be one of those Tomax and Xamot type things where when we beat wade, you feel pain too? (how's that for an old school reference GI Joe Fans)

12-04-2006, 09:27 AM	#21
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Souf Cackalacky	Thanks, Doug! __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

12-04-2006, 09:43 AM	#23
Narcizo College Starter Join Date: Jan 2006	Maybe we should put together some sort of list with features and prioritise the stuff. (stuff like access to the box scores - which come in the HTML export now) and whatnot. As a bare minimum a forum, upload and download feature are probably all that's necessary.

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